Waves to release Element 2 Synth

[LFO8]

I still love Element 2 for it's sound and usability. I just wish they would code it more efficiently to not eat as much CPU.

[simon.a.billington]

Usually their code is quite optimised. They've been doing it for almost 30 years, you'd think they'd be pretty good at it by now.

It's the usual story of quality vs efficiency. Quality requires more calculations which will hit your CPU harder. It's just they way things work. Though if you run it in the Element 1 mode (click on the 1) it will be more efficient, but there will be a slight change in the sound. So you can always opt to run it that way, ora balance of the two modes.

The differences though, is good demonstration in the quality vs CPU efficiency trade off.

[LFO8]

I think it sounds very good. But not better than U-he Diva and that is about 4 times more CPU efficient still that Waves Element. They should try harder.

[simon.a.billington]

I think it sounds very good. But not better than U-he Diva and that is about 4 times more CPU efficient still that Waves Element. They should try harder.

Actually the Element, so far has the best oscillators Ive heard in any software synth. They already sound thick and lush out of the box without having to resort to any thickening tricks.

I'm assuming its because of their Voltage modelling tech. As in, they model what happens to the signal's current as it passes between hardware components. It makes a difference and I don't believe anyone else does it, which explains why the oscillators sound so good and whether there is any extra overhead.

If they reduce the number crunching they reduce the quality. I'm not so keen on that. I'd prefer to freeze my tracks.

[zzz00m]

Actually the Element, so far has the best oscillators Ive heard in any software synth. They already sound thick and lush out of the box without having to resort to any thickening tricks.

I'm assuming its because of their Voltage modelling tech. As in, they model what happens to the signal's current as it passes between hardware components. It makes a difference and I don't believe anyone else does it, which explains why the oscillators sound so good and whether there is any extra overhead.

Element 2 sounds excellent!

For VA, it compares well with Tone2 Saurus 3 for the thick and lush oscillators and uncluttered UI.

While u-he is probably the benchmark for modeling specific VA oscillators and filters, these other VA synths aren't constrained to sound like classic synths in a specific way. They just sound really good!

[simon.a.billington]

Actually the Element, so far has the best oscillators Ive heard in any software synth. They already sound thick and lush out of the box without having to resort to any thickening tricks.

I'm assuming its because of their Voltage modelling tech. As in, they model what happens to the signal's current as it passes between hardware components. It makes a difference and I don't believe anyone else does it, which explains why the oscillators sound so good and whether there is any extra overhead.

Element 2 sounds excellent!

For VA, it compares well with Tone2 Saurus 3 for the thick and lush oscillators and uncluttered UI.

While u-he is probably the benchmark for modeling specific VA oscillators and filters, these other VA synths aren't constrained to sound like classic synths in a specific way. They just sound really good!

Yeah exactly. Not everything needs to be bound by reproducing sounds of decades gone by. Sometimes it's just enough to take a classic idea and build on it. Perhaps making something new and modern from it.

Codex and Flow Motion also sound great. Albeit, Flow Motion seems too exist somewhere between the world of digital FM and classic analog. In some ways I wish it had 2 more operators to play with, but it's already taxing enough on the CPU. Possibly why the stopped at 4.

Actually, it would be nice to see these synths become modules of one bigger master synth, where you can combine the different engines in a more cohesive way. But man, such a synth would bring my computer to a crashing halt.

Then there's CR8. Man, if only it had sample slicing.

[zzz00m]

Codex and Flow Motion also sound great. Albeit, Flow Motion seems too exist somewhere between the world of digital FM and classic analog. In some ways I wish it had 2 more operators to play with, but it's already taxing enough on the CPU. Possibly why the stopped at 4.

Actually, it would be nice to see these synths become modules of one bigger master synth, where you can combine the different engines in a more cohesive way.

I also have the Codex and Flow Motion. Flow is an interesting implementation of an old idea turned into something new. The workflow is a bit unusual, but I enjoy playing around with the presets.

I wish Waves had at least combined Element and Codex into one common synth. Either synth on their own sound very strong! A combination would allow the VA and wavetable engines to be creatively combined, although there are already other synths that do this well.

But at the same time, I understand the idea that Markus at Tone2 had with Saurus. Create a VA beast that excels at one type of synthesis. He already has a stable of other super-duper synths that can do it all, but he still wanted to create one where focus was VA without compromise. Well done I say!

[simon.a.billington]

Codex and Flow Motion also sound great. Albeit, Flow Motion seems too exist somewhere between the world of digital FM and classic analog. In some ways I wish it had 2 more operators to play with, but it's already taxing enough on the CPU. Possibly why the stopped at 4.

Actually, it would be nice to see these synths become modules of one bigger master synth, where you can combine the different engines in a more cohesive way.

I also have the Codex and Flow Motion. Flow is an interesting implementation of an old idea turned into something new. The workflow is a bit unusual, but I enjoy playing around with the presets.

I wish Waves had at least combined Element and Codex into one common synth. Either synth on their own sound very strong! A combination would allow the VA and wavetable engines to be creatively combined, although there are already other synths that do this well.

But at the same time, I understand the idea that Markus at Tone2 had with Saurus. Create a VA beast that excels at one type of synthesis. He already has a stable of other super-duper synths that can do it all, but he still wanted to create one where focus was VA without compromise. Well done I say!

Yeah, Ive yet to spend a bit more time designing with Flow, FM isn't exactly the most intuitive or speedy thing's to program, but it will get you places other synthesis won't.

Actually I'm thinking if Waves could combine all 3 synths, possibly CR8 into a super synth, that would be awesome too. Granted, I don't we'd be able to run all engines at once, but a choice to be able to layer at lease two together would be wicked.