Slow clap...clap...clap ... Can we now have a MSEG? A Chord-Lane? A Arranger-Lane?

[Fannon]

I'd also be really happy about a chord track. Meanwhile, I created this "chord pack" that includes only chords (and not hundreds/thousands of highly redundant progressions). This kind of scratches my itch:

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Can be downloaded here:
https://github.com/Fannon/midi-chord-pa ... chord-pack

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[] Peter:H []

Bump ... to show my increasing interest in a MSEG modulator. Have bought an upgrade plan, but I'm reluctant to activate it now ... why would I. Good thing is - I can write whatever I want in this forum, I figure Bitwig guys do not read nor comment here.

[duanosforde]

Chord/arranger track are my most requested features aside from ARA2. I don't know but there is something exciting about experimenting with chord progressions and arrangements I would have otherwise overlooked. Really does help with writers block when it happens. Studio One does it well, would be nice to have in BW. The sound design capabilities, clip launcher etc in BW with chord/arranger tracks would be super dope and I would venture to say falls in line with Bitwig's inherent experimental nature.

[SLiC]

Personally I use Scaler 2 which is pretty cheap and ticks all the boxes....but there are many other cheap or free chord/arranger plugins.



Bitwig would have to build in something very extensive to rival this and I am not sure its the best use of development time at this stage (when we still have no audio pitch edit/quantise)

Personally I prefer they concentrate on things that can only be achieved through the DAW (editing etc) and ARA to help 'integrate' Melodyne.

[Dionysos]

Bitwig would have to build in something very extensive to rival this

The strength of native implementation is usually deeper and more seamless integration, not wealth of features. So I'd disagree with this in general, and think that they could build something that's far less powerful "on paper", but would still deliver value over what any plugin can do.

This is especially true for all functionality touching sequencing or arrangement.

[SLiC]

Bitwig would have to build in something very extensive to rival this

The strength of native implementation is usually deeper and more seamless integration, not wealth of features. So I'd disagree with this in general, and think that they could build something that's far less powerful "on paper", but would still deliver value over what any plugin can do.

This is especially true for all functionality touching sequencing or arrangement.

It may of course be possible to improve on with integration, but Scaler integrates very well (in any DAW) and is super easy to use with both chords, scales and porgessions...it will take some beating IMHO if that is the type of functionality people are looking.

Things that really have to be integrated to work effectively (pitch quantise/correction/ARA etc) should be before 'nice to have' stuff for me. There are a lot of basic piano roll improvements that cant really be supplemented with a plug in.

That said, Traction has a nice easy to implement feature of just 'insert chords' in the piano roll, I wouldn't be adverse to something like that as it wouldn't take to much development time I think.

[] Peter:H []

Imagine a chord track with kind of "chord and scale-aware" plugins like "chord receiver", a "add bass note", a "create inversion" with modulatable inversion-number or "assign channel by note-position in chord" ... or somebody asked "I want to switch layer in instrument layer by the interval of two notes, i.e. quinte and quart routed to other instruments" ... right now I don't know how I would do it. Probabaly it's doable and I'm stupid...
But as I said, I don't think somebody of Bitwig Team is reading here.

[SLiC]

I think whatever is coming in the next version is already written and will be out pretty soon (based on past release cycles) so we wont have long to wait and see what in it!

[pdxindy]

Imagine a chord track with kind of "chord and scale-aware" plugins like "chord receiver", a "add bass note", a "create inversion" with modulatable inversion-number

When I imagine that stuff, it all sounds far slower than simply playing my keyboard.

[liquidsound]

Imagine a chord track with kind of "chord and scale-aware" plugins like "chord receiver", a "add bass note", a "create inversion" with modulatable inversion-number

When I imagine that stuff, it all sounds far slower than simply playing my keyboard.

[] Peter:H []

Imagine a chord track with kind of "chord and scale-aware" plugins like "chord receiver", a "add bass note", a "create inversion" with modulatable inversion-number

When I imagine that stuff, it all sounds far slower than simply playing my keyboard.

Because your use case is different than mine. I'm a programmer who loves generative stuff. you are obviously not.
And tell me how you play the "choose channel based on interval" on your keyboard. I would like to learn that technique and others as well I think...
Anyway ... it's really cool that you give a f**k on my wishes. Thanks. Really enjoy that kind of posts. brought me further in live and I bet you as well.

[pdxindy]

Because your use case is different than mine. I'm a programmer who loves generative stuff. you are obviously not.
And tell me how you play the "choose channel based on interval" on your keyboard. I would like to learn that technique and others as well I think...
Anyway ... it's really cool that you give a f**k on my wishes. Thanks. Really enjoy that kind of posts. brought me further in live and I bet you as well.

Live playing is a creative joy, but I enjoy doing generative stuff as well. It's a fun and stimulating exercise.

Playing realtime, I would not try to automate the channel based on interval, I would do it manually cause I am already playing the intervals so I know them... with an expression pedal for example.

However, I'm pretty sure you could automate it in Note Grid. Bitwig is a generative powerhouse!

One of these days I'm going to make a generative project where I play a note or notes on a track and every other track does something based on it. Like I said, a stimulating exercise

[Trancit]

And don´t forget not every musician/producer is a trained keyboard/piano player!!
In fact I think it´s more the opposite...

[xbitz]

Because your use case is different than mine. I'm a programmer who loves generative stuff. you are obviously not.
And tell me how you play the "choose channel based on interval" on your keyboard. I would like to learn that technique and others as well I think...
Anyway ... it's really cool that you give a f**k on my wishes. Thanks. Really enjoy that kind of posts. brought me further in live and I bet you as well.

Live playing is a creative joy, but I enjoy doing generative stuff as well. It's a fun and stimulating exercise...

trance also has similar fun and no need for real-time playing after the initial rhythm/top-riff/chord progression parts (for the parts of the initial ideas)

intervals are pretty strict because of the delays and the long reverb tails, a "fun and stimulating exercise" puzzle-like stuff but need a good piano roll for sure (the composing part is mainly a sliding-block game with (delayed)notes )