Kotelnikov plugin basic

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This might seem like such a novice question and it is. I'm starting on using compressors. Did some googling and i found this link on Kotelnikov .

Followed the link below,
https://docs.tokyodawn.net/installing-a ... r-plugins/ (https://docs.tokyodawn.net/installing-and-registering-your-tdr-plugins/)

and i installed the plugins as shown in the attached image.

i don't know how to launch the plugins. How do I "run/launch" the compressor? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.

 
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You open and run it on a track in your DAW or similar audio host program.
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

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Here is a list of free DAWs (Digital Audio Workstation) https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2015/1 ... -software/

(make sure the one you choose can load plugins)
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In your position, I wouldn't buy anything apart from a DAW. That's where you'll spend most of your time.

Then, get familiar with the DAW plugin effects; they all have a basic compliment of the tools we all use (EQs, compressors, delays and reverbs) and only when you feel you have reached the limit of your stock plugins should you start looking around to replace (or think of it like this "give you more options") them.

Look at how other experienced users understand and use compressors, and the different ways educational sources describe them. Here are some good starting points.

https://www.musicianonamission.com/how- ... -top-tips/
https://www.blackghostaudio.com/blog/th ... ompression
https://blog.landr.com/how-to-use-a-compressor/

You won't understand everything there is to know about compressors straight away - on average, most folks take about 10 years to actually fully understand and make _good_ use of the features. If you need to use visual aids to help you see what's going on, that's great, but eventually, in order to make good decisions, you'll want to only use your ears.

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I'd agree with the above - if you're just starting out (and apologies if making assumptions there) - just get to know the stock compressor in your DAW. Learn to use attack and release times properly. Kotelnikov likely has a bunch of stuff you don't really need at this point. Good luck!

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on average, most folks take about 10 years to actually fully understand and make _good_ use of the features.
Probably some people never get there at all, but if you're motivated, and take the time to actually understand what a compressor does, you'll find it's not very complicated at all.

10 years? Citation please.

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meridahu wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:37 am i installed the plugins as shown in the attached image.

i don't know how to launch the plugins. How do I "run/launch" the compressor? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
Where exactly did you install the plugins?
Have you used plugins before?
What DAW are you using (if any)?

More info please ...

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BazJacuzzi wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:27 pm
on average, most folks take about 10 years to actually fully understand and make _good_ use of the features.
Probably some people never get there at all, but if you're motivated, and take the time to actually understand what a compressor does, you'll find it's not very complicated at all.

10 years? Citation please.
No need for citation. In all the years I've been doing music, and all the people I've spoken about their development, very few people understand how to listen to things like dynamics and spectral energy within a year or two. You can go to a production school for 2 years and have lectures, group sessions, studio time.. all of that, and still compression is a mystery to them.

So, like you say, some people never get there, a few people get it relatively quickly, but the majority take on average a decade (approx 4 hours a working day (260 days a year) is about 1000 thousand hours, do that for 10 years and you should have an idea of what you're doing)

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you're starting on using compressors for what?

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kotelnikov might just be one of the worse options if you are just starting out with compressors. Sure, it is not as complicated as say DC8C or Presswerk or Compassion, but not exactly a beginner comp. Heck, it is mostly too complicated for me (it’s coz Im stoopid…). Luckily it is hard to make it sound really bad :lol:

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fese wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:22 am kotelnikov might just be one of the worse options if you are just starting out with compressors. Sure, it is not as complicated as say DC8C or Presswerk or Compassion, but not exactly a beginner comp. Heck, it is mostly too complicated for me (it’s coz Im stoopid…). Luckily it is hard to make it sound really bad :lol:
True as it is very transparent and hard to make sound bad.. :party: BUT:

https://hermetechmastering.com/compressors.html you can use this "formula" to know what the compressor does :)
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That Hermetech advice is good!

Obviously you'll do things differently when compressing individual tracks. That's advice for a Mastering scenario. But that's a good starting point to learn.

And I'll say I agree with what was written above. It didn't take long to learn the basics of compression, but what to listen for and how to use it well... that's still a learning process 15+ years in. Life is for learning. :)

Oh, and to the OP: I also agree with what someone said, do not be tricked into spending money on a compressor other than the one that comes with your DAW. You will not need it for a good while. The DAW stock compressor will get you through the first years of this. Then get the *phenomenal* free compressors that are out there, like indeed the Tokyo Dawn ones, or Klanghelm. Eventually you'll know what is worth spending money on *for you* and why. Until you know that, don't fall for any marketing.

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Kotelnikov GE has one of the best YT videos ever for a plugin. It's a shame this guy only ever made 3 videos or something.

https://youtu.be/1Tx6SRCwWug

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meridahu wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:28 am
meridahu wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:27 am
CinningBao wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:08 pm
BazJacuzzi wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:27 pm
on average, most folks take about 10 years to actually fully understand and make _good_ use of the features.
Probably some people never get there at all, but if you're motivated, and take the time to actually understand what a compressor does, you'll find it's not very complicated at all.

10 years? Citation please.
No need for citation. In all the years I've been doing music, and all the people I've spoken about their development, very few people understand how to listen to things like dynamics and spectral energy within a year or two. You can go to a production school for 2 years and have lectures, group sessions, studio time.. all of that, and still compression is a mystery to them.

So, like you say, some people never get there, a few people get it relatively quickly, but the majority take on average a decade (approx 4 hours a working day (260 days a year) is about 1000 thousand hours, do that for 10 years and you should have an idea of what you're doing)
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Sorry about that. It kept flagging my reply as spam, so i had to try that . maybe 5 more "Test" messages and my replies won't get flagged as Spam. The irony.
I'm trying to apply my knowledge from what i am familiar with ( compression in HAs) to music as well.

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