Kontakt 7 info leaked

[noiseboyuk]

not true.
you can ‘open’ third party libraries in the browser, but not ‘import’ them, which i think is what we’re all hoping for.
that would mean ALL your libraries in the libraries browser, rather than some being in the file browser.

Yes true. It’s exactly their terminology, not my own.

This might not be what you’re hoping for, but this is what the NI calls it. Just follow the link and see for yourself.

I think it is you that needs to look again. You're either trolling or have totally misread that article. Scroll down the page - that's the relevant part.

It's very clear - currently full Kontakt just uses the file browser and Quick Load to navigate to non-Player libraries on disk. You cannot import fully like you can with Player libraries. Equally clear from the leak that this main new feature should be proper importing with tagging (maybe an image too?), and hopefully these libraries will co-exist with the Player ones so as to be indistinguishable in action. I suspect this might just be in the new full-frame browser, not the side bar, we'll have to wait and see.

I'd love to have basic categories for libraries - guitars, drums, brass, keyboards, voice, synths etc.

[apricotandpearjam]

there is nothing which says 'import non player libraries'

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[apricotandpearjam]

not true.
you can ‘open’ third party libraries in the browser, but not ‘import’ them, which i think is what we’re all hoping for.
that would mean ALL your libraries in the libraries browser, rather than some being in the file browser.

Yes true. It’s exactly their terminology, not my own.

This might not be what you’re hoping for, but this is what the NI calls it. Just follow the link and see for yourself.

I think it is you that needs to look again. You're either trolling or have totally misread that article. Scroll down the page - that's the relevant part.

It's very clear - currently full Kontakt just uses the file browser and Quick Load to navigate to non-Player libraries on disk. You cannot import fully like you can with Player libraries. Equally clear from the leak that this main new feature should be proper importing with tagging (maybe an image too?), and hopefully these libraries will co-exist with the Player ones so as to be indistinguishable in action. I suspect this might just be in the new full-frame browser, not the side bar, we'll have to wait and see.

I'd love to have basic categories for libraries - guitars, drums, brass, keyboards, voice, synths etc.

agreed and thank you!

[elxsound]

not true.
you can ‘open’ third party libraries in the browser, but not ‘import’ them, which i think is what we’re all hoping for.
that would mean ALL your libraries in the libraries browser, rather than some being in the file browser.

Yes true. It’s exactly their terminology, not my own.

This might not be what you’re hoping for, but this is what the NI calls it. Just follow the link and see for yourself.

I think it is you that needs to look again. You're either trolling or have totally misread that article. Scroll down the page - that's the relevant part.

It's very clear - currently full Kontakt just uses the file browser and Quick Load to navigate to non-Player libraries on disk. You cannot import fully like you can with Player libraries. Equally clear from the leak that this main new feature should be proper importing with tagging (maybe an image too?), and hopefully these libraries will co-exist with the Player ones so as to be indistinguishable in action. I suspect this might just be in the new full-frame browser, not the side bar, we'll have to wait and see.

I'd love to have basic categories for libraries - guitars, drums, brass, keyboards, voice, synths etc.

You’ve got the first part correct. It uses the file browser. Again, this is NI’s terminology for importing non player libraries.

The part you’ve got wrong is that that list is an announcement of all new features.

food for thought… it’s their business model to work with 3rd party developers who purchase licenses to have player versions that appear in the browser. Why would they disrupt this model and how would NI compensate those developers if they already paid?

It might be fun labeling me a troll, but if you’re not familiar with a beta change log, then let’s just wait for the final release to see who’s right.

[EvilDragon]

Why would the model be disrupted? One of the most often requested features ever (apart from HiDPI) was to be able to browse indie (non-Player) content as if it were Player content.

I'm not gonna comment on other speculations.

[noiseboyuk]

You’ve got the first part correct. It uses the file browser. Again, this is NI’s terminology for importing non player libraries.

The part you’ve got wrong is that that list is an announcement of all new features.

food for thought… it’s their business model to work with 3rd party developers who purchase licenses to have player versions that appear in the browser. Why would they disrupt this model and how would NI compensate those developers if they already paid?

It might be fun labeling me a troll, but if you’re not familiar with a beta change log, then let’s just wait for the final release to see who’s right.

Oh, it's a slow morning here, let's unpack this post, shall we?

You’ve got the first part correct. It uses the file browser. Again, this is NI’s terminology for importing non player libraries.

That's some impressive slight of handwriting, getting towards "alternative facts". You've invented the notion that this is their terminology for something different. It's not. It's just loading and organising patches. Importing is different, and described above in their article where it applies. And good news - this is what we have coming. The whole crux of your argument was that we already have this feature existing in Kontakt. We don't. But we will.

A more honest response would be "oh sorry I didn't read it properly". It's okay to say that, it's always lovely to read that on a forum. I always do it when I read things wrong. We're all human.

The part you’ve got wrong is that that list is an announcement of all new features

...which I didn't say. Back to reading comprehension again, I said ..."clear from the leak that this main new feature"... I'm just factually referencing the leak and what it tells us about the state of Kontakt 7 in mid-august. The leak isn't the official definitive feature list, and never claimed it was.

food for thought… it’s their business model to work with 3rd party developers who purchase licenses to have player versions that appear in the browser. Why would they disrupt this model and how would NI compensate those developers if they already paid?

Fair question, but I don't think it disrupts the business model all that much at all. The main thing with Player libraries is that you don't need full Kontakt to run them. That's a big thing, and I'd be pretty sure that this wouldn't change.

It might be fun labeling me a troll, but if you’re not familiar with a beta change log, then let’s just wait for the final release to see who’s right.

Ah and we're back to reading comprehension again. I said "You're either trolling or have totally misread that article". An either/or option - and in fact you've made an excellent case here that it is the latter. Mind you, if you keep doubling down on all the "this is NI's terminology" and that you were right all along, then it's looking more like the former, I'd have to concede.

As to Beta - yes, I've been in a beta programs, and know how dynamic they are. Sometimes big additions are made later in the cycle alongside all the bug fixes and tweaks, it's true. It's a hunch on my part that they have here already enough new features for them to call it a new version number - new factory library, new fullscreen browser with import of non-player libraries, HiDPI support, new effects. That's on a par or better than the Kontakt 6 new features. But it would be lovely if they do have more up their sleeve of course.

[elxsound]

You’ve got the first part correct. It uses the file browser. Again, this is NI’s terminology for importing non player libraries.

The part you’ve got wrong is that that list is an announcement of all new features.

food for thought… it’s their business model to work with 3rd party developers who purchase licenses to have player versions that appear in the browser. Why would they disrupt this model and how would NI compensate those developers if they already paid?

It might be fun labeling me a troll, but if you’re not familiar with a beta change log, then let’s just wait for the final release to see who’s right.

Oh, it's a slow morning here, let's unpack this post, shall we?

You’ve got the first part correct. It uses the file browser. Again, this is NI’s terminology for importing non player libraries.

That's some impressive slight of handwriting, getting towards "alternative facts". You've invented the notion that this is their terminology for something different. It's not. It's just loading and organising patches. Importing is different, and described above in their article where it applies. And good news - this is what we have coming. The whole crux of your argument was that we already have this feature existing in Kontakt. We don't. But we will.

A more honest response would be "oh sorry I didn't read it properly". It's okay to say that, it's always lovely to read that on a forum. I always do it when I read things wrong. We're all human.

The part you’ve got wrong is that that list is an announcement of all new features

...which I didn't say. Back to reading comprehension again, I said ..."clear from the leak that this main new feature"... I'm just factually referencing the leak and what it tells us about the state of Kontakt 7 in mid-august. The leak isn't the official definitive feature list, and never claimed it was.

food for thought… it’s their business model to work with 3rd party developers who purchase licenses to have player versions that appear in the browser. Why would they disrupt this model and how would NI compensate those developers if they already paid?

Fair question, but I don't think it disrupts the business model all that much at all. The main thing with Player libraries is that you don't need full Kontakt to run them. That's a big thing, and I'd be pretty sure that this wouldn't change.

It might be fun labeling me a troll, but if you’re not familiar with a beta change log, then let’s just wait for the final release to see who’s right.

Ah and we're back to reading comprehension again. I said "You're either trolling or have totally misread that article". An either/or option - and in fact you've made an excellent case here that it is the latter. Mind you, if you keep doubling down on all the "this is NI's terminology" and that you were right all along, then it's looking more like the former, I'd have to concede.

As to Beta - yes, I've been in a beta programs, and know how dynamic they are. Sometimes big additions are made later in the cycle alongside all the bug fixes and tweaks, it's true. It's a hunch on my part that they have here already enough new features for them to call it a new version number - new factory library, new fullscreen browser with import of non-player libraries, HiDPI support, new effects. That's on a par or better than the Kontakt 6 new features. But it would be lovely if they do have more up their sleeve of course.

You’re confused that this is an argument.

You’re mighty confident but again, let’s wait until there’s a release. To write as much as you have for something not officially released makes zero sense.

I’ll be happy to help you unpack things then. We can even talk about reading comprehension then too if you’re still feeling just as confident.

[noiseboyuk]

You’re confused that this is an argument.

You’re mighty confident but again, let’s wait until there’s a release. To write as much as you have for something not officially released makes zero sense.

I’ll be happy to help you unpack things then. We can even talk about reading comprehension then too if you’re still feeling just as confident.

The reason I picked up on your post is you presented something as confident fact that was, in fact, entirely false. An alternative fact, if you will. As someone very much not keen on alternative facts, I guess that does make this an argument. You then doubled down, again with no basis in fact. Your basic argument that Kontakt can already import non-player libraries - or that somehow this is NI terminology - is simply wrong.

As for leaks - leaks aren't fiction. They are incomplete and provisional information. A few years ago NI themselves leaked the next version of Komplete's products. Plenty of people were saying "nothing to see here, it's all fake". That leak turned out to be 100% correct. It doesn't follow that this leak is an incontrovertible tablet of stone, but no-one is saying it is. Most of us just see it as a solid information as far as it goes.

[elxsound]

You’re confused that this is an argument.

You’re mighty confident but again, let’s wait until there’s a release. To write as much as you have for something not officially released makes zero sense.

I’ll be happy to help you unpack things then. We can even talk about reading comprehension then too if you’re still feeling just as confident.

The reason I picked up on your post is you presented something as confident fact that was, in fact, entirely false. An alternative fact, if you will. As someone very much not keen on alternative facts, I guess that does make this an argument. You then doubled down, again with no basis in fact. Your basic argument that Kontakt can already import non-player libraries - or that somehow this is NI terminology - is simply wrong.

As for leaks - leaks aren't fiction. They are incomplete and provisional information. A few years ago NI themselves leaked the next version of Komplete's products. Plenty of people were saying "nothing to see here, it's all fake". That leak turned out to be 100% correct. It doesn't follow that this leak is an incontrovertible tablet of stone, but no-one is saying it is. Most of us just see it as a solid information as far as it goes.

You’re still trying to argue, why?

You said what you believe is true. I said what I believe is true. Is there really so much more to say?

When it’s released or announced there’ll be actually something to talk about.

[noiseboyuk]

You’re still trying to argue, why?

Because you are using alternative facts. You persist in the false belief that Kontakt 6 allows non-player library import. It does not. It's a fact. Yours is an alternative fact.

You said what you believe is true. I said what I believe is true. Is there really so much more to say?

No, I quoted a fact. You quoted an alternative fact, and pretended it was an actual fact.

When it’s released or announced there’ll be actually something to talk about.

There's something to talk about right now, your lies about Kontakt 6. If you accept that was total nonsense, we can leave the leak about Kontakt 7.

[elxsound]

You’re still trying to argue, why?

Because you are using alternative facts. You persist in the false belief that Kontakt 6 allows non-player library import. It does not. It's a fact. Yours is an alternative fact.

You said what you believe is true. I said what I believe is true. Is there really so much more to say?

No, I quoted a fact. You quoted an alternative fact, and pretended it was an actual fact.

When it’s released or announced there’ll be actually something to talk about.

There's something to talk about right now, your lies about Kontakt 6. If you accept that was total nonsense, we can leave the leak about Kontakt 7.

What the f**k is wrong with you?

You don’t seem to understand stand what facts are and seem in hunt of enemy.

Life is too good for you if this is what gets you riled up.

[noiseboyuk]

What the f**k is wrong with you?

You don’t seem to understand stand what facts are and seem in hunt of enemy.

Life is too good for you if this is what gets you riled up.

It's fairly straightforward - it someone says a demonstrable factual falsehood - and I'm having a quiet day - I might call 'em out.

Anyway, I'm sure we both agree this digression has reached a logical conclusion. You have your own alternative facts, everyone else here has the actual facts.

[elxsound]

Why would the model be disrupted? One of the most often requested features ever (apart from HiDPI) was to be able to browse indie (non-Player) content as if it were Player content.

I'm not gonna comment on other speculations.

I take this as good news.

Any way to know if this will be in the same library panel as 3rd part content vs accessible via the browser?

[EvilDragon]

I'm not gonna comment on other speculations.

[elxsound]

What the f**k is wrong with you?

You don’t seem to understand stand what facts are and seem in hunt of enemy.

Life is too good for you if this is what gets you riled up.

It's fairly straightforward - it someone says a demonstrable factual falsehood - and I'm having a quiet day - I might call 'em out.

Anyway, I'm sure we both agree this digression has reached a logical conclusion. You have your own alternative facts, everyone else here has the actual facts.

You and your “alternative facts.” Like a f**king parrot. You use facts too liberally. That’s not how it works but it doesn’t stop you from repeating yourself.