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rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:23 pm

So I am demoing the h9 bundle but I am not sure I wanna spend the 200 still, are there any alternatives to Crystals? so far is the one I think it is more unique. While I also like black hole, ultratap and shimmer I do think those have alternatives.

Also which other of the effects included in the bundle could I be overlooking?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 pm

Crystals is $29 only at the moment, so, if you just want that...

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:05 pm

I know, but i wanna see what are the options out there, i have not followed which are the more recent/popular pitch shifters outhere

El°HYM · Post by **El°HYM** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:22 pm

Soundtoys Crystallizer?
https://www.soundtoys.com/product/crystallizer

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:21 pm

rod_zero wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:05 pm I know, but i wanna see what are the options out there, i have not followed which are the more recent/popular pitch shifters outhere

Crystals isn't really a pitch-shifter at all though - while it indeed includes pitch-shifting, what it does is something entirely different to a simple pitch-shifter.

Like Soundtoys Crystallizer, which just been mentioned, it specifically seeks to emulate a certain famous special effect - the algorithm Crystal Echoes from the Eventide H3000 (which was developed by Soundtoys founder&CEO Ken Bogdanovich)

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:02 pm

Maybe Audio Damage Other Desert Cities?

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:34 pm

Maybe the melda mbgranular or whatever its called. i forget. I just use the Eventide stuff.

fairlyclose · Post by **fairlyclose** » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:21 am

Blue Cat Late Replies is way more powerful and could be used for reversed pitch shifted delays (doesnt actually have a built in reverser I dont think but can host vst's )
Also Valhalla Delay

RobGee · Post by **RobGee** » Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:12 am

Crystallizer or Valhalla Delay…

Septic Underground · Post by **Septic Underground** » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:39 am

I use crystals all the time, there are many sales with eventide. Be patient, I bought it for 29 each a few and then got the h9 collection. Crystals is the one I use the most, next to the rotary and blackhole

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:12 am

Septic Underground wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:39 am I use crystals all the time, there are many sales with eventide. Be patient, I bought it for 29 each a few and then got the h9 collection. Crystals is the one I use the most, next to the rotary and blackhole

how many plugins did you have when you upgraded to the h9 collection? and how much the upgrade was?

I think getting crystals and blackhole in offer is nice but maybe later I want ultratap and try the others more extensevly

onerob · Post by **onerob** » Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:56 pm

You could try Emergence. It's pretty flexible.

https://daniel-gergely.itch.io/emergence

Dirk Diggler · Post by **Dirk Diggler** » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:55 pm

Valhalla Shimmer.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:14 pm

U-he's MFM 2.5...

Lots of shimmery, granular forward or reverse pitch-shifted delays possible... plenty of modulation options

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:07 pm

It sounds like an octaver into a reverb/ delay. You can do this with a couple plugins very easily at least what's happening in the demos above. One freeware
or cheap pitchshifter/ granular delay into a reverb on a send. Gives that sparkle and diffusion without the "infinite climbing" of a shimmer reverb type feedback loop. Not a hard effect to realize, but a cheap and easy to use plugin that does this might be worth it if you want this style of FX often. if you have a semi modular host then it's something that can be slapped together in a minute or so also so it's more of a convenience in some cases

Alternatives to Eventide Crystals