Viper｜1.2.2 update with bugfixes and new skin

[ATS]

OK I demoed this, when does it usually go on sale? I honestly think full price is a little high but of course that is all relative.

[DCrown]

Virus was never my cup of tea, but I was curious and installed demo version.
Well, it reminds me of Xpand!2 by AIR Music, but Xpand! 2 has way more presets and is more versatile. The price of viper from an unknown dev is... no comment !

[Lbdunequest]

Virus was never my cup of tea, but I was curious and installed demo version.
Well, it reminds me of Xpand!2 by AIR Music, but Xpand! 2 has way more presets and is more versatile. The price of viper from an unknown dev is... no comment !

Is this is sarcasm?

[DCrown]

Virus was never my cup of tea, but I was curious and installed demo version.
Well, it reminds me of Xpand!2 by AIR Music, but Xpand! 2 has way more presets and is more versatile. The price of viper from an unknown dev is... no comment !

Is this is sarcasm?

? Not at all. I also think quite a lot of presets are too excessive with too much effects (delay and/or reverb).
Besides Xpand!2 has more categories and there are no e-pianos and not some organs in viper, sounds a little too one sided imo and there are too many SQ presets, I never use such presets.
But it's still version 1, maybe new more versatile sounds and presets will be added.

Sacarsm? Xpand!2 and Vacuum by AIR are hard to beat! A new fancy gui won't hardly impress me and there are indeed lots of synths I indeed prefer over virus, but that's just me. As I wrote, I was just curious and demoed plugin and to me it's like a small version of Xpand! 2 with way less categories and a thinner sound pimped with lots of fx.

[Dencheg]

Virus was never my cup of tea, but I was curious and installed demo version.
Well, it reminds me of Xpand!2 by AIR Music, but Xpand! 2 has way more presets and is more versatile. The price of viper from an unknown dev is... no comment !

First of all, Virus was never your cup of tea.
And you're right, centipedes are much more renowned than Usain Bolt, cause they have much more legs (obviously) and have been there for a while (even if not updated in like 500 billion years), unlike that unknown unimpressive fancy guy which has much less exoskeletons, with his thin bipedal legs pimped up with pathetic layers of external tissue

[kmonkey]

? Not at all. I also think quite a lot of presets are too excessive with too much effects (delay and/or reverb).
Besides Xpand!2 has more categories and there are no e-pianos and not some organs in viper, sounds a little too one sided imo and there are too many SQ presets, I never use such presets.
But it's still version 1, maybe new more versatile sounds and presets will be added.

Sacarsm? Xpand!2 and Vacuum by AIR are hard to beat! A new fancy gui won't hardly impress me and there are indeed lots of synths I indeed prefer over virus, but that's just me. As I wrote, I was just curious and demoed plugin and to me it's like a small version of Xpand! 2 with way less categories and a thinner sound pimped with lots of fx.

[Lbdunequest]

Virus was never my cup of tea, but I was curious and installed demo version.
Well, it reminds me of Xpand!2 by AIR Music, but Xpand! 2 has way more presets and is more versatile. The price of viper from an unknown dev is... no comment !

Is this is sarcasm?

? Not at all. I also think quite a lot of presets are too excessive with too much effects (delay and/or reverb).
Besides Xpand!2 has more categories and there are no e-pianos and not some organs in viper, sounds a little too one sided imo and there are too many SQ presets, I never use such presets.
But it's still version 1, maybe new more versatile sounds and presets will be added.

Sacarsm? Xpand!2 and Vacuum by AIR are hard to beat! A new fancy gui won't hardly impress me and there are indeed lots of synths I indeed prefer over virus, but that's just me. As I wrote, I was just curious and demoed plugin and to me it's like a small version of Xpand! 2 with way less categories and a thinner sound pimped with lots of fx.

Xpand 2 is a different category instrument, more like Nexus. Its apples and oranges.

[Plugintester]

Xpand2 and Viper both have first and foremost 90s sounds afaik, so maybe that's why there might be soundwise similarities to some extent. Xpand2 is a bread & butter synth, though and thus has of course more categories, it's still a great synth for saving ideas quickly, for composing imo
Virus or Viper is more a niche product, so I would not expect epiano sounds, even though lots of synths do have epiano sounds or mimic epianos.
Virus was released midst of 90ies (?) and Xpand (I don't know, maybe 2006?),Xpand V2 and Air plugins were included in Pro Tools 8, that's when I also had or used Pro Tools.

[adamszabo]

OK I demoed this, when does it usually go on sale? I honestly think full price is a little high but of course that is all relative.

There was a summer sale just recently, but there will be a new one in december. Its funny, I get a lot of emails saying why I set the price so low, because its worth more than that. And some people think the price is too high. Its impossible to please everyone.

Virus was never my cup of tea, but I was curious and installed demo version.
Well, it reminds me of Xpand!2 by AIR Music, but Xpand! 2 has way more presets and is more versatile. The price of viper from an unknown dev is... no comment !

I am not sure I follow the logic of "unknown dev" and what the price has to do with that. Sylenth1 was the only synth from the developer and he was "unknown". Spire is also the only synth from the developer so he is also "unknown", and they set their prices for what they though its worth. I dont see the correlation between the price and being known or not. You set the price of the product based on how much work went into it and what it can do, not how well known you are. I have been doing sound design for different companies for 10+ years, and have other vst plugins besides Viper, so I have been in the business quite some time, I didnt just appear out of nowhere. Its not my fault you didnt know who I was earlier

? Not at all. I also think quite a lot of presets are too excessive with too much effects (delay and/or reverb).
Besides Xpand!2 has more categories and there are no e-pianos and not some organs in viper, sounds a little too one sided imo and there are too many SQ presets, I never use such presets.

Viper is based on the Virus, which is mainly for electronic music, so indeed there are not so many organ and epiano sounds. That said, now that Viper can import the hundreds of Virus soundbanks, there should be more than plenty of sounds for it. For example here at 2:56 there is an epiano, and at 3:50 organ sound, to show that it can do them if you really want:

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

ok maybe i have to build my own synth,instead of giving for free an ideas for upgrade and to receive 'don't understand' instead of thanks for the nice idea...

WTF? I mentioned earlier if it can be implemented I will try my best to do so, but first I have to understand. I cannot look into your head. I can see that English is not your strength (which is fine, many of us are not English), so thats why I said draw a picture, which would take you 5 minutes? How do you expect me to work my ass off for your request if you dont put any effort in helping me understand...

Yep could be my english...or maybe you forget how your synth GUI looks like and what user see working with it (the vertical line)
I am trying to simplify explanation,so even 5th graders to understand it,but yet you insist to go back to children garden and to draw a picture - ok video is more expressive.
For sure this is the last free idea a give to any developer - simple thanks for the idea is enough to me,i am doing it cause i am naive designer with naive ideas about user's and developer benefit,not expecting anything,that's why my music is so naive hahahha this guy rock i'm curious how the 'realistic,not naive music' sounds anyway - if watching this video somebody say i don't understand ,there is description under the video..other than that i could thanks you for still not understanding,whatever you don't understand..you are designer and developer,u shouldn't explain programing terms,not me,i am advanced user with ideas...not demands...i adore Viper and admire you work and passion about it,but obviously something in our communication is really wrong and i give up trying to fix whatever cause it - my naive music,ideas or desire to help improving already great synth:

[_morton_]

For sure this is the last free idea a give to any developer

I can hear the combined sighs of relief from here...

[_morton_]

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I'll chime in to put my extensive Paint knowledge, and immaculate color palette taste in service of the greater good.
Did he mean something like that?

Yes that's exactly what he means, changing the start and end point of the cycle, to give a diff shape... but that would mean the cycle changes length, and doing that live (if possible) could cause problems

A drawable lfo shape might be better, or an mseg. (As long as the cycle remains static) These already exist.

[adamszabo]

@Velltone, thanks for the video, but it showed...nothing. I know there is a vertical line on the GUI, I am not an autistic retard, I meant that there is no line "inside" the synth. But anyway, I think I am starting to understand where the confusion comes from. You are referring to a starting Phase knob and an end "Phase" knob. Now here is the part where I am not sure you know what the phase knob does, or you DO know, but cannot explain in a way that I understand. So let me break it down: the Phase knob (and the vertical line representation) shows ONLY where the lfo shape will start from at the first cycle, after that the lfo will repeat from the beggining of the waveform regardless where you set the phase. Now end "phase" doesnt exist. Phase refers to the entire signals phase, and the end phase that you are talking about I presume is the end point of the single cycle loop. So basically you would like a way to shorten the wave and set the end point where it should repeat the wave from again. If you mean this, then yes this will be implemented, this was already done in the Virus, i am quoting this from the manual: Contour ”zooms” into the wave, thereby shortening the wave’s loop length (Contour to the right).

So thank you for the suggestions, this will be implemented when user waveforms can be used with the LFOs.

[_morton_]

Exactly what I said...

[adamszabo]

Exactly what I said...

Yes, then at last everybody is on the same page