Undo doesn't work on volume changes
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- KVRist
- 34 posts since 4 Sep, 2022
Hello everyone
I quite like Waveform 12 (free), everything seems easy and confortable, but there is something that stops me, is that when you change the volume of any track either in the mixer or in the main window, if you want to go back, the undo function does not work, so I don't know what volume it was before I changed it, plus the inconvenience of having to return the volume to the approximate previous position manually each time. Is there a way to tell Waveform that the undo also affects volume changes?
Thanks.
I quite like Waveform 12 (free), everything seems easy and confortable, but there is something that stops me, is that when you change the volume of any track either in the mixer or in the main window, if you want to go back, the undo function does not work, so I don't know what volume it was before I changed it, plus the inconvenience of having to return the volume to the approximate previous position manually each time. Is there a way to tell Waveform that the undo also affects volume changes?
Thanks.
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- KVRist
- 142 posts since 9 Apr, 2022
I have a similar problem, but "undo" does work on changes I make to the the "Clip Gain" in the tracks. For some reason, though, undo doesn't seem to work on fader adjustments. Maybe it's because the fader is a plug in? But I just checked now, when I read your thread. I usually make volume adjustments by right clicking and choosing the clip gain option, or if I want finer adjustments, I click on that little up arrow over a little line on the lower left of my screen. Not sure what it's called, but it is some kind of action button that brings up a big menu on the bottom, and you can click on the gain in the middle, and type in the volume you want.
I tried this just now, and I can undo and re-do at will. Maybe undo/redo simply don't work on the channel faders?
I tried this just now, and I can undo and re-do at will. Maybe undo/redo simply don't work on the channel faders?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 34 posts since 4 Sep, 2022
Hi ChiroVette, thanks for replying, I see I'm not the only one with that problem.
When you say "clip gain", do you mean "clip velocity"? Right click on the clip and a menu appears, and at the top is «clip velocity» (At least in Waveform free 12) In this case (clip velocity), the undo does work. But I think it's a different volume than the mixer volume.
In addition to the volume fader, I notice that in the mixer, undo doesn't work in the "Volume & Pan Plugin" either, as well as the track volume that is in the main window, which does not work undo either.
For my work it is uncomfortable not being able to use the undo function in volume, in a song I usually make changes, then I listen, if I like it, I continue, and if I don't like, then undo. But not being able to use undo on the volume for me at least represents an inconvenience.
When you say "clip gain", do you mean "clip velocity"? Right click on the clip and a menu appears, and at the top is «clip velocity» (At least in Waveform free 12) In this case (clip velocity), the undo does work. But I think it's a different volume than the mixer volume.
In addition to the volume fader, I notice that in the mixer, undo doesn't work in the "Volume & Pan Plugin" either, as well as the track volume that is in the main window, which does not work undo either.
For my work it is uncomfortable not being able to use the undo function in volume, in a song I usually make changes, then I listen, if I like it, I continue, and if I don't like, then undo. But not being able to use undo on the volume for me at least represents an inconvenience.
- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
It's helpful to be specific. I think one of you is talking about MIDI clips - which have a velocity control - and one of you is talking about audio clips - which have a gain control.
Changes to volume in the volume plugin do not seem to be affected by Undo. I thought maybe it was a thing where Undo doesn't have an effect on plugins, but toggling the polarity switch in the volume plugin is affected by Undo. Toggling Mute and Solo are not affected by Undo.
What makes it scary is that something is probably happening when you Undo, but when it's not what you're expecting how can you know what has been un-done?
Changes to volume in the volume plugin do not seem to be affected by Undo. I thought maybe it was a thing where Undo doesn't have an effect on plugins, but toggling the polarity switch in the volume plugin is affected by Undo. Toggling Mute and Solo are not affected by Undo.
What makes it scary is that something is probably happening when you Undo, but when it's not what you're expecting how can you know what has been un-done?
Surely there must be consensus by now...
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- KVRAF
- 1601 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
100% what Pough said. I've often had to balance tracks because the fader can be stubborn about taking a particular setting when there's no undo to put it where it was... and yes, I too will use "redo" just in case I undid something else somewhere I didn't spot.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 34 posts since 4 Sep, 2022
Oh right pough. One should be talking about Audio Clips and me talking about midi clips. Ok
Excuse my ignorance, I'm just starting with Waveform, where is the "volume plugin" and how can I toggle the polarity switch on the volume plugin?
Excuse my ignorance, I'm just starting with Waveform, where is the "volume plugin" and how can I toggle the polarity switch on the volume plugin?
- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
It's the plugin that's on every track that handles volume and pan. If you select it while the Control Panel is enlarged, you will be able to access the polarity toggle switch. It is also accessible through the Actions tab of the Browser.
Surely there must be consensus by now...
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- KVRist
- 227 posts since 9 Mar, 2022
This very thing is absolutely killing me now -Have you figured out a work around?? I noticed that the undo function DOES work for plugins, so if you could control the vol and pan of each track using a plugin, I guess that could work, no??Barth1 wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:35 pm Hello everyone
I quite like Waveform 12 (free), everything seems easy and confortable, but there is something that stops me, is that when you change the volume of any track either in the mixer or in the main window, if you want to go back, the undo function does not work, so I don't know what volume it was before I changed it, plus the inconvenience of having to return the volume to the approximate previous position manually each time. Is there a way to tell Waveform that the undo also affects volume changes?
Thanks.
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- KVRist
- 227 posts since 9 Mar, 2022
Dude -This exactly. I was working with a plugin the other day. I pushed undo several times and it only "undid" the last, like, 3 eq points I set. After that I kept pressing undo and I had no idea what I was actually "undoing"...pough wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:41 pm What makes it scary is that something is probably happening when you Undo, but when it's not what you're expecting how can you know what has been un-done?
Kept on undoing stuff, but no idea what...
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- KVRist
- 227 posts since 9 Mar, 2022
You can say that, again! Basically makes Waveform unusable for mixing for me!!Barth1 wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:29 pm For my work it is uncomfortable not being able to use the undo function in volume, in a song I usually make changes, then I listen, if I like it, I continue, and if I don't like, then undo. But not being able to use undo on the volume for me at least represents an inconvenience.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 34 posts since 4 Sep, 2022
- KVRian
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
I usually do mixing adjustments by editing track level in the actions panel. So, I have to read the original value and typing in a different value. Then I usually remember how much I cahanged, say 2 dB. This way it's easy to change it back to the original value.
