Ableton Suite or Bitwig (advice for someone coming from Renoise)?

[Stan Navi]

The main advantage for me in Bitwig:
1. I can save synth preset with all effects. In Live i need a rack to save preset with vst and effects. Then i need to name it properly if i want to find particular synth plugin. In Bitwig every vst plugin has container so you can put effects in it. So i can take particular plugin and call preset for it with all effects.

2. Midi effects can be used on one track with synth plugin. No routings, just drag and drop.

3. Instrument/fx selector is such creative thing and is more viable in live performance use cases than racks.

[Lazarus451]

Ableton Live has one very important advantage compared to many other daws: size of the userbase, therefore thousands of tutorials in youtube etc. But Bitwig is getting more popular in this field too.

[sQeetz]

Ableton Live has one very important advantage compared to many other daws: size of the userbase, therefore thousands of tutorials in youtube etc. But Bitwig is getting more popular in this field too.

Another one is Push.