Studio monitors for small bedroom for EDM

[chk071]

Why on earth should the genre matter when choosing monitors?

I'm no expert or anything but frequency response in the low end perhaps. At least my pair of yamaha HS7 have basically no bass, sounds like a decent radio in that regard.

The technical specs say they go down to 43 Hz though, which should at least be relatively decent for bass.

This review talks about a narrow sweet spot. Maybe your positioning isn't optimal?

[machine_spirit]

The technical specs

I might definitely be confused about things here but i don't believe the strength (i'm sure there's a word for this, amplitude?) of the frequency response is linear, it slopes quickly in the low end. No idea if this is due to a filter or something else. I guess it doesn't slope as quickly or early on the KRK rokits for example. I've messed around with the positioning but it doesn't seem to matter regarding the lowest frequencies, there's so little of it to begin with.

[Ploki]

43hz is Fs3 or where frequency response drops for 3dB.

Likely your room and SBIRs (position) are the issue.
Slam them against the wall. Don’t make silly 50cm gaps.
Heard HS7 and HS8 bang like a frickin sub in decent spaces

[machine_spirit]

43hz is Fs3 or where frequency response drops for 3dB.

Likely your room and SBIRs (position) are the issue.
Slam them against the wall. Don’t make silly 50cm gaps.
Heard HS7 and HS8 bang like a frickin sub in decent spaces

So the frequency response isn't somewhat arbitrary, good to know, i thought it was weird.

I don't think i've ever had them anywhere near that close to the wall, i'll try that. Manual says at least 1.5 meters from any wall, not seen that often... I bought them many years ago, half the reason being just to replace the basic logitech speakers i had for general use, and the other half all the reasons you buy a pair of monitors for. After that, life got complicated and i never got to room treatment or anything like that. Untreated room should generally lead to more bass though? Wish i had that damn subwoofer but for that kind of money (not to mention room treatment) i could get a pair of fairly high-end headphones that are actually meant for production (unlike my denon d2000's) and one of those room simulation stereo interference something something plugins i haven't tried yet.

[chk071]

If your room is anything like mine (meaning that there's loads of different spots in the room where frequencies add up, or get cancelled out, leading to very different listening impressions all over the room), then you might have had the "luck" to catch a spot where the bass frequencies simply don't exist.

You probably have done that, but, try to vary your listening position, go back, go forward, stand up, and see how that changes the sound.

Yes, very basic stuff which you probably have done anyway, but, thought I'd mention it anyway. Because I was completely surprised when I did that here. It's day and night in some spots. Completely different.

[machine_spirit]

If your room is anything like mine (meaning that there's loads of different spots in the room where frequencies add up, or get cancelled out, leading to very different listening impressions all over the room), then you might have had the "luck" to catch a spot where the bass frequencies simply don't exist.

You probably have done that, but, try to vary your listening position, go back, go forward, stand up, and see how that changes the sound.

Yes, very basic stuff which you probably have done anyway, but, thought I'd mention it anyway. Because I was completely surprised when I did that here. It's day and night in some spots. Completely different.

For sure, the deepest bass happens to appear like 10 meters away from the speakers at the stairs to the room. Moving the speakers to the middle of the room gets rid of some mud but doesn't seem to achieve much else other than breaking my toes due to the awkward furniture arrangement

I have the subwoofer from the logitech set connected together with the monitors but i have no way of balancing their volume or controlling the frequency crossover, so this is purely for entertainment. It makes it very obvious how important that 20-40Hz range is though. Even at a modest volume (where you only really notice the bass when you remove it) - if i turn off the subwoofer - the entire body of a kick and pretty much any sub-groove just disappears. The idea that someone could mix music with any kind of deeper bass in it on these monitors alone, seem completely alien to me. Yet i've seen several claim just that. Confusing

[Ploki]

43hz is Fs3 or where frequency response drops for 3dB.

Likely your room and SBIRs (position) are the issue.
Slam them against the wall. Don’t make silly 50cm gaps.
Heard HS7 and HS8 bang like a frickin sub in decent spaces

So the frequency response isn't somewhat arbitrary, good to know, i thought it was weird.

I don't think i've ever had them anywhere near that close to the wall, i'll try that. Manual says at least 1.5 meters from any wall, not seen that often... I bought them many years ago, half the reason being just to replace the basic logitech speakers i had for general use, and the other half all the reasons you buy a pair of monitors for. After that, life got complicated and i never got to room treatment or anything like that. Untreated room should generally lead to more bass though? Wish i had that damn subwoofer but for that kind of money (not to mention room treatment) i could get a pair of fairly high-end headphones that are actually meant for production (unlike my denon d2000's) and one of those room simulation stereo interference something something plugins i haven't tried yet.

1.5m is a good guide because the SBIR moves out of speakers range.
Problem with “room” correction software is that it cant fix dips that occur from SBIR and room modes, generally only works well with peaks.

Yeh at 10m in the staircase you probably have some favorable acoustics
Bass is a pain in the ass lol

[machine_spirit]

Yeh at 10m in the staircase you probably have some favorable acoustics
Bass is a pain in the ass lol

There's just enough room under the stairs for a computer, the monitors and a dual 10" subwoofer i used to have in my car

[himalaya]

Why on earth should the genre matter when choosing monitors?

Because there are speakers that may not be suitable for the genre you might be specialising in. For example, I wouldn't want to rely solely on a pair of Yamaha NS10 when making any type of club music, likewise I wouldn't want to use Funktion One when mixing acoustic music. Two extremes perhaps, but they illustrate that not every speaker is suitable for all types of music.

Another thing is, it's about how you hear the speaker, your own perception of sound and your own judgement as to how it would sound with the type of music you make. Of course, we aim to choose a speaker that can cover it all. A real studio monitor that is as neutral as possible, and maybe then a secondary, complementary speaker that provides a specific alternative 'image' of the sound.

[rorofat]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but without getting into the speakers vs headphones discussion, I'd recommend looking at the KH120a - if you're limited on space (which seems likely), it's a ridiculous sound relative to the footprint it takes up. If i'm not mistaken, they're front ported as well.

[ATS]

I know most people give advice with the best of intentions to help, but seriously, a £1000 pair of speakers in this room???
I think a pair of I-Louds would be more than sufficient.

$1000 is not that much to spend on a hobby you love and deeply care about.

[BONES]

If you need to, but nobody needs to spend anywhere near that sort of money to get awesome monitors, which leaves you with plenty of spare cash to spend on other things, like an Erae Touch.

[sl23]

I don't have the luxury of a studio, just use my living room. Is it worth getting monitors still? I was looking at the KRK ROKIT RP7 G4. Are they any good for a room around 6x4 metres?

[sl23]

Hasn't anyone used these then? Thought they were meant to be popular in the industry.

[andymcbain]

Hasn't anyone used these then? Thought they were meant to be popular in the industry.

Rokits have always been a popular entry level monitor speaker and a larger room gives you lots of flexibility for positioning. No reason not to get the Rokit 7.

The G4 series seem to be well designed and good for the money -

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru ... tor.20711/