KVR Audio

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:12 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:That's absurdly clumsy and complex.
I suppose that happens when developers are too deep into their products and can't imagine anymore how an outsider might experience their products.

Reminds me of the nerdy instructions for fixing a broken Windows Update service

Yep its more simple than it reads and really does need a nice fix by waves tbh.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:52 pm

MFXxx wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I can't believe this. There is no way to set up a user folder in Waves Element 2. This has been confirmed by Waves support. You create a patch, save it somewhere on your hard drive and then when you want to load it, you have to go to "Open Preset" and go to the location on your hard drive where you have them stored. That's it. That's your preset management system.

No wonder there are no 3rd party libraries for this synth. The folders you see when you go to load are built into the synth. They exist nowhere on your hard drive.

In this day and age, especially since Element 2 is relatively new, this is just disgraceful. What would be the point of me even creating a library for this thing? I mean who will tolerate a preset system like this for 3rd party libraries?

/rant
Funny enough I hacked around and sussed out how to solve this the other night, but it takes to editing the XPS files.

...SNIP...

If there are any real geniuses out there, I am wondering if there is anyone who could simply develop a simple program to do all this automatically. JUST A KIND THOUGHT

M

While I really appreciate you taking the time to type all that out, thanks but no thanks. Have no patience to go through all that.

Like I said, disgraceful preset management system.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:12 am

Totally agree. ;*)

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:21 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:That's absurdly clumsy and complex.
I suppose that happens when developers are too deep into their products and can't imagine anymore how an outsider might experience their products.

Reminds me of the nerdy instructions for fixing a broken Windows Update service

those who live by KISS, enjoy life more

Grizzellda · Post by **Grizzellda** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:35 am

Good thread, we need to talk about this interesting preset system Waves has.

Well, you can save all the banks you want, but it seems you cannot organize folders within those banks.

With their recent redoing of the GUI for the L1 limiter and the Q10 equalizer, I think they are moving into the future, so let us hope that preset management is something they will improve!

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:18 am

layzer wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:That's absurdly clumsy and complex.
I suppose that happens when developers are too deep into their products and can't imagine anymore how an outsider might experience their products.

Reminds me of the nerdy instructions for fixing a broken Windows Update service
those who live by KISS, enjoy life more

Absolutely and those that do, do have a happy life ;*)

slaambo · Post by **slaambo** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:03 pm

Agreed, Waves plugs generally have miniscule and prehistoric saving routines needing bifocal spectacles and sometimes - as apparently with Element2 - university degrees in nerdological studies in order to save a preset in a custom folder. Specially annoying because Element2 is one of the very finest virtual anas out there, I think it outstanding soundwise.

C'mon Waves, take note (and while you're listening, what about some re-sizable GUIs plz?).

From my perspective I never go near the Waves save routines and effortlessly create Element2 banks on Mac using the AU Preset format which works like a charm.

LFO8 · Post by **LFO8** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:32 pm

In Waves v13 the current preset system seems OK with Elements 2. Certainly not a system I would opt for (imo U-he does it best with an overlay preset browser) but it's workable and beats going through the top menu bar drop down menus all the time. That being said.. I'm new to this synth by a few days and testing it out. But the sound is great imo.

Constructed Identity · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:00 am

Just got a CR8 + Flow Motion last month. Their user presets are at:
Local Disk(C:)/Users/Public/Waves Audio/Plug-In Settings

LFO8 · Post by **LFO8** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:01 am

Constructed Identity wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:00 am Just got a CR8 + Flow Motion last month. Their user presets are at:
Local Disk(C:)/Users/Public/Waves Audio/Plug-In Settings

Yep. And for Mac it’s in the Shared folder (same path: Waves Audio/Plug-In Settings)

Opil · Post by **Opil** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:06 am

New User Preset System in Waves Plugins V12.7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9km2h2spY&t=215s

LFO8 · Post by **LFO8** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:17 am

Opil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:06 am New User Preset System in Waves Plugins V12.7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9km2h2spY&t=215s

This is not new though, it’s been out for over a year. And for any instrument plugin (like Element 2) browsing presets like this is a terrible experience imo. Vital and U-he get the preset browser thing very right.

Opil · Post by **Opil** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:33 pm

LFO8 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:17 am
Opil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:06 am New User Preset System in Waves Plugins V12.7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9km2h2spY&t=215s
This is not new though, it’s been out for over a year.

You must read the the whole sentence "in Waves Plugins V12.7"

LFO8 · Post by **LFO8** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:38 pm

I see.. I read to quickly

Scrubbing Monkeys · Post by **Scrubbing Monkeys** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 3:50 pm

Imagine the 3rd party banks and elevated interest if they got this right from the begining.
This is one of the best sounding VA synths out there

Waves Element 2 Preset Management Disgraceful