Truth Bomb: Lost Sale
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 31 Jan, 2019
I came here to check out Turnado because I saw a new plugin called Infinite (by Toolroom Academy - https://toolroomacademy.com/shop/infinite) which creates REALLY impressive transitions (risers & downers) similar to Endless Smile ... but tweakable.
I remembered Turnado (which has been around FOREVER) was very similar and could probably do a ton more since it had alot more effects ... but WOW was I wrong! Not only is the interface teeny-tiny (in 2022), but the knobs are completely unusable to create transitions. As soon as any knob turns just a hair to 1, the entire effect turns on. Some effects, though, like filter high-pass, work as expected. If I turn it to 1, the effect is low, and when I turn it to 127, the effect fully kicks in.
I was excited to play around with the Dictator to build a transition, but the way the effect knobs work is just wonky. How the HECK does anyone use Turnado for anything musical??
Anyway, since Turnado hasn't been updated in 10 years, has a tiny interface for 4k monitors, completely unusable effects & knobs, I'm spending my money with an innovative company that's not complacent like Sugar Bytes ... THANKFULLY you had a Demo
Sorry for the "Truth Bomb", but you need to hear it from a potential customer you just lost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5SRc54TCg
I remembered Turnado (which has been around FOREVER) was very similar and could probably do a ton more since it had alot more effects ... but WOW was I wrong! Not only is the interface teeny-tiny (in 2022), but the knobs are completely unusable to create transitions. As soon as any knob turns just a hair to 1, the entire effect turns on. Some effects, though, like filter high-pass, work as expected. If I turn it to 1, the effect is low, and when I turn it to 127, the effect fully kicks in.
I was excited to play around with the Dictator to build a transition, but the way the effect knobs work is just wonky. How the HECK does anyone use Turnado for anything musical??
Anyway, since Turnado hasn't been updated in 10 years, has a tiny interface for 4k monitors, completely unusable effects & knobs, I'm spending my money with an innovative company that's not complacent like Sugar Bytes ... THANKFULLY you had a Demo
Sorry for the "Truth Bomb", but you need to hear it from a potential customer you just lost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5SRc54TCg
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- KVRist
- 128 posts since 24 Mar, 2022
Sugar Bytes is great and were on the ball updating everything to M1. I get that Turnado is old and this new plugin may be the better choice for you but I don’t believe SB deserves the shade you’re throwing. I own everything, they make and have been a customer of theirs for close to 10 years. My experience with them has been a good one.
That being said I never use Turnado and haven’t ever really found it all that appealing.
That being said I never use Turnado and haven’t ever really found it all that appealing.
- KVRAF
- 9785 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Definitely some shade, but honestly it’s helpful.PsychicVST wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:15 am Sugar Bytes is great and were on the ball updating everything to M1. I get that Turnado is old and this new plugin may be the better choice for you but I don’t believe SB deserves the shade you’re throwing. I own everything, they make and have been a customer of theirs for close to 10 years. My experience with them has been a good one.
That being said I never use Turnado and haven’t ever really found it all that appealing.
If It’s my business and I’m losing sales, it’s nice to know why.
UI interaction and a small interface might be on their radar already for updates (if any) and then again… maybe not.
- KVRAF
- 14985 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Turnado isn’t for chumps. It’s for cool cats, dig? You wouldn’t understand.
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- KVRist
- 115 posts since 19 Jul, 2004
If nothing else, Turnado's hype video is maybe the catchiest I've ever seen for any VST(!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw3WqAf06E8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw3WqAf06E8
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- KVRist
- 46 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
Or you take a minute to learn how the plugin works, and assigns the big knob to also sweep dry/wet for the effect in question...ADAM EIZOR wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:27 pm As soon as any knob turns just a hair to 1, the entire effect turns on.
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- KVRAF
- 2373 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
Yeah, that video is quite incredible actually!iowastate89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:50 pm If nothing else, Turnado's hype video is maybe the catchiest I've ever seen for any VST(!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw3WqAf06E8
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- KVRAF
- 5051 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
I don't use it for transitions so there are no issues for me. Things that are musical can be achieved without transitions so it has plenty of uses.ADAM EIZOR wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:27 pm ...... the knobs are completely unusable to create transitions. As soon as any knob turns just a hair to 1, the entire effect turns on. ....... How the HECK does anyone use Turnado for anything musical
That's just being silly.
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- KVRAF
- 3533 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
Thanks Adam Eizor, you have totally convinced me to buy the plugin you are marketing. Where do I send my social security number?
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- KVRAF
- 8823 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
People who get tricked by marketing hype are not potential customers of Sugar Bytes. People who know what a knob is supposed to do and can dive deeper into sound design are the target…ADAM EIZOR wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:27 pm Sorry for the "Truth Bomb", but you need to hear it from a potential customer you just lost.
This sort of marketing (writing bad reviews of competing products) can‘t work. It puts the company on my ignore list forever…