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Junolab wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:14 pm Does anyone know where the new Toontrack Hitmaker SDX can be bought the cheapest?
Thomann has it for $129 plus applicable fees

https://www.thomannmusic.com/toontrack_sdx_hitmaker.htm

Best bet is the SDX Value Pack at Thomann, 3 SDXes at $95 each.

https://www.thomannmusic.com/toontrack_ ... e_pack.htm
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a bit of strange, or perhaps not strange, sale or bundle sale: Bitwig Studio Upgrade (or Bitwig Studio full) + Spectral Suite

at jrrshop

but it is not specified at all, what is the Spectral Suite...

https://www.jrrshop.com/bitwig-studio-u ... tral-suite

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WasteLand wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:59 pm a bit of strange, or perhaps not strange, sale or bundle sale: Bitwig Studio Upgrade (or Bitwig Studio full) + Spectral Suite

at jrrshop

but it is not specified at all, what is the Spectral Suite...

https://www.jrrshop.com/bitwig-studio-u ... tral-suite
Weird - the only Spectral Suites I know of are both open source/free, and one is also Mac only

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aMUSEd wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:25 pm
WasteLand wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:59 pm a bit of strange, or perhaps not strange, sale or bundle sale: Bitwig Studio Upgrade (or Bitwig Studio full) + Spectral Suite

at jrrshop

but it is not specified at all, what is the Spectral Suite...

https://www.jrrshop.com/bitwig-studio-u ... tral-suite
Weird - the only Spectral Suites I know of are both open source/free, and one is also Mac only
Seems like an accidental early release. A web search yields a couple of retailers (which I've never heard of before) selling the same product with the following description:
Sonarscope wrote: This edition of Bitwig Studio is bundled with 4 Spectral sound devices:

Transient Split divides percussive transients and tonal sounds. Only stuttering the drum hits might be nice. Or separating instruments from percussion means mixing the way you want to.

Freq Split distributes a sound across four channels, like a set of filter banks. With random delay times and panning on each channel, we've got a spectral delay. Or use Bitwig's modulators to shuffle through a different effect on each channel for a new kind of phaser.

Loud Split separates the quiet, mid, and loud elements within a sound. Cranking up the softest parts of a sound will instantly transform it. Or let a thin section of the sound ring out without breaking the mix.

Harmonic Split spreads harmonics into two groups, and collects non-harmonics into a third channel. We could isolate the fundamental frequency and give everything else some distance.

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aMUSEd wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:25 pm
WasteLand wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:59 pm a bit of strange, or perhaps not strange, sale or bundle sale: Bitwig Studio Upgrade (or Bitwig Studio full) + Spectral Suite

at jrrshop

but it is not specified at all, what is the Spectral Suite...

https://www.jrrshop.com/bitwig-studio-u ... tral-suite
Weird - the only Spectral Suites I know of are both open source/free, and one is also Mac only
there is a plugin collection called Spectral Suite, for windows, and it is free (or donationware)...

and indeed, the one that is only Mac, Soundmagic Spectral, which i hope will come for Windows too, and will make a donation...
cthonophonic wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:54 pm This edition of Bitwig Studio is bundled with 4 Spectral sound devices:

Transient Split divides percussive transients and tonal sounds. Only stuttering the drum hits might be nice. Or separating instruments from percussion means mixing the way you want to.

Freq Split distributes a sound across four channels, like a set of filter banks. With random delay times and panning on each channel, we've got a spectral delay. Or use Bitwig's modulators to shuffle through a different effect on each channel for a new kind of phaser.

Loud Split separates the quiet, mid, and loud elements within a sound. Cranking up the softest parts of a sound will instantly transform it. Or let a thin section of the sound ring out without breaking the mix.

Harmonic Split spreads harmonics into two groups, and collects non-harmonics into a third channel. We could isolate the fundamental frequency and give everything else some distance.

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

by aMUSEd » 04 Oct 2022 23:25
this sounds like only splitters, sounds almost like MeldaProduction, but less featured....

EDIT:

it is there, a bitwig product:

https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/

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Not keen on purchasable addons that only work inside Bitwig. Reason does this with REs, but at least you can use them inside the Reason plugin version. It makes me concerned that the update plan I have until 2024 may not now include interesting new additions. Would the Grid have been a paid addon?

Glad the Spectral Suite itself doesn’t appeal to me.

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WasteLand wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:11 amthis sounds like only splitters, sounds almost like MeldaProduction, but less featured....

EDIT:

it is there, a bitwig product:

https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/

 
Yes, specifically, I think that Melda's free MRatioMB can do much of this (except for the harmonic split on evens/odds). Duplicate it for n tracks, and mute all except 1 band per track. There is a nice "workflow feature" in that you can add arbitrary Bitwig devices to the "effect loops"--or maybe even VSTs? I'm new to bitwig.

It doesn't seem particularly high value to me, but I guess Bitwig is testing the waters.

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jneudorf wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:07 pm
WasteLand wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:11 amthis sounds like only splitters, sounds almost like MeldaProduction, but less featured....

EDIT:

it is there, a bitwig product:

https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/

 
Yes, specifically, I think that Melda's free MRatioMB can do much of this (except for the harmonic split on evens/odds). Duplicate it for n tracks, and mute all except 1 band per track. There is a nice "workflow feature" in that you can add arbitrary Bitwig devices to the "effect loops"--or maybe even VSTs? I'm new to bitwig.

It doesn't seem particularly high value to me, but I guess Bitwig is testing the waters.
Maybe we should ask Vojtech from Melda. He will probably implement the missing functionality in no time. :)

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ralfrobert wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:09 pm
jneudorf wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:07 pm
WasteLand wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:11 amthis sounds like only splitters, sounds almost like MeldaProduction, but less featured....

EDIT:

it is there, a bitwig product:

https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/

 
Yes, specifically, I think that Melda's free MRatioMB can do much of this (except for the harmonic split on evens/odds). Duplicate it for n tracks, and mute all except 1 band per track. There is a nice "workflow feature" in that you can add arbitrary Bitwig devices to the "effect loops"--or maybe even VSTs? I'm new to bitwig.

It doesn't seem particularly high value to me, but I guess Bitwig is testing the waters.
Maybe we should ask Vojtech from Melda. He will probably implement the missing functionality in no time. :)
It could easily be a paid MSoundFactoryLE add-on like the new drum machine (lol). The easiest approach would be for each band to go to its own auxiliary channel, with the main output left as-is. But I wouldn't want to pay $80 ($40 during madness sale) for it.

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jneudorf wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:16 pm
ralfrobert wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:09 pm
jneudorf wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:07 pm
WasteLand wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:11 amthis sounds like only splitters, sounds almost like MeldaProduction, but less featured....

EDIT:

it is there, a bitwig product:

https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/

 
Yes, specifically, I think that Melda's free MRatioMB can do much of this (except for the harmonic split on evens/odds). Duplicate it for n tracks, and mute all except 1 band per track. There is a nice "workflow feature" in that you can add arbitrary Bitwig devices to the "effect loops"--or maybe even VSTs? I'm new to bitwig.

It doesn't seem particularly high value to me, but I guess Bitwig is testing the waters.
Maybe we should ask Vojtech from Melda. He will probably implement the missing functionality in no time. :)
It could easily be a paid MSoundFactoryLE add-on like the new drum machine (lol). The easiest approach would be for each band to go to its own auxiliary channel, with the main output left as-is. But I wouldn't want to pay $80 ($40 during madness sale) for it.
By the way, the Melda Dream Machines were included in the full package at no extra cost. And so was the Steinway. He keeps his promises.

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Are the 'new' PA loyalty vouchers (any (but not any) plug $29) personal again? Mine ends RXq

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Mine too, 56RXq at the end.

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Looks like still generic then. Cheers.

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nevermind

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GaryG wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:42 am Are the 'new' PA loyalty vouchers (any (but not any) plug $29) personal again? Mine ends RXq
Who is designing their business models? They change weekly and seem completely unsustainable. This week alone I got 2 free amp sim plugins because they were less than $20 each. I like free plugins, but this seems like some shortsighted insanity. I’d actually like them to stick around for years to come, ya know?

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