Did Bitwig Hire a New Marketing Person?
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- KVRist
- 237 posts since 5 Feb, 2006 from Toronto
What was misleading about the U-He promotion?
That's when I bought in …last week… now I have almost the entire u-he collection + Bitwig 4.3.8 & luv it.
The U-He deal filled me with love and peace and good vibes ¬ but this 4.3.9 Crash Bandicoot game today got weird and very quickly boring. …wrote tech support 'cuz i couldn't even run a DEMO of the Spectral suite… so I just reloaded 4.3.8 and got back to music.
That's when I bought in …last week… now I have almost the entire u-he collection + Bitwig 4.3.8 & luv it.
The U-He deal filled me with love and peace and good vibes ¬ but this 4.3.9 Crash Bandicoot game today got weird and very quickly boring. …wrote tech support 'cuz i couldn't even run a DEMO of the Spectral suite… so I just reloaded 4.3.8 and got back to music.
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- KVRian
- 643 posts since 28 Oct, 2010
The misleading part is that people bought/renewed Bitwig without knowing what they were paying for.
Of course everyone thought they'd get 12 months of "all included" from Bitwig because it said so in their website:
"Future-proof: All software updates in the following 12 months are FREE"
Bitwig could have announced some months in advance they'd be releasing paid add-ons and customers could have made a proper decision with full knowledge of what they were paying. But they didn't.
Of course Bitwig are not idiots, they knew people wouldn't like it. So instead, they decided to make the U-He promo to grab some cash to survive some months until the thing cooled off. Who knows, it might work out in the end. Or not...
Of course everyone thought they'd get 12 months of "all included" from Bitwig because it said so in their website:
"Future-proof: All software updates in the following 12 months are FREE"
Bitwig could have announced some months in advance they'd be releasing paid add-ons and customers could have made a proper decision with full knowledge of what they were paying. But they didn't.
Of course Bitwig are not idiots, they knew people wouldn't like it. So instead, they decided to make the U-He promo to grab some cash to survive some months until the thing cooled off. Who knows, it might work out in the end. Or not...
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- KVRist
- 416 posts since 27 Nov, 2017
Perhaps a last-ditch money grab just prior to announcing a Francisco Partners sell-out ala iZotope?pierb wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:40 am The misleading part is that people bought/renewed Bitwig without knowing what they were paying for.
Of course everyone thought they'd get 12 months of "all included" from Bitwig because it said so in their website:
"Future-proof: All software updates in the following 12 months are FREE"
Bitwig could have announced some months in advance they'd be releasing paid add-ons and customers could have made a proper decision with full knowledge of what they were paying. But they didn't.
Of course Bitwig are not idiots, they knew people wouldn't like it. So instead, they decided to make the U-He promo to grab some cash to survive some months until the thing cooled off. Who knows, it might work out in the end. Or not...
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- KVRAF
- 5200 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
No nope....pierb wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:40 am The misleading part is that people bought/renewed Bitwig without knowing what they were paying for.
Speak for yourself. I knew EXACTLY what I was buying into.
Nothing is misleading.
Imagine every time Steinberg or Presonus releases an addon and then KVR idiots demand it should be for free. Hahahahahahahahaha
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- KVRist
- 475 posts since 4 Nov, 2011 from Tleat
It’s expected from the getgo for these other daws. Bitwig’s motto was always “pay subscription, get all features”. Now it’s shifted.kmonkey wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:25 amNo nope....pierb wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:40 am The misleading part is that people bought/renewed Bitwig without knowing what they were paying for.
Speak for yourself. I knew EXACTLY what I was buying into.
Nothing is misleading.
Imagine every time Steinberg or Presonus releases an addon and then KVR idiots demand it should be for free. Hahahahahahahahaha
”hahahahahahahahahahahaha” oh boy.
Brzzzzzzt.
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- KVRAF
- 12083 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
If you have Presonus Sphere (their version of the update plan) then everything Presonus Launch for S1 is free.kmonkey wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:25 am Imagine every time Steinberg or Presonus releases an addon and then KVR idiots demand it should be for free. Hahahahahahahahaha
This what it says (still) on the Bitwig site for people who buy the upgrade plan...
12 Months of Free Upgrades
Future-proof: All Bitwig Studio updates in the following 12 months are FREE.
What part of that isn't clear? People only want what they were sold, that isn't unreasonable.
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- KVRist
- 416 posts since 27 Nov, 2017
"Did Bitwig Hire a New Marketing Person?"
PT Barnum wept.
PT Barnum wept.
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- KVRian
- 538 posts since 23 Jan, 2008 from Hamburg, Germany
This looks more like they've hired a guy directly from business school who thinks that he is the center of the universe and that he was sent from god to instantly increase the revenue of the company. These guys can't fail and they can't be wrong. If it fails then it's the fault of the developer or the marketing guy.
Been there before.
Been there before.
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- KVRAF
- 1592 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
Or of the consumer...Benutzername wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:28 am This looks more like they've hired a guy directly from business school who thinks that he is the center of the universe and that he was sent from god to instantly increase the revenue of the company. These guys can't fail and they can't be wrong. If it fails then it's the fault of the developer or the marketing guy.
Been there before.
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- KVRAF
- 19783 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Here is the Bitwig CEO. I think this explains everything........
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None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 10 Apr, 2014
Funny enough I remember them pushing KVR as kind of "official" support forum in the early days.simmo75 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:58 pm Do Bitwig ever interact on KVR, I’m not seeing any replies, and they’re seriously hurting themselves.
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- KVRist
- 465 posts since 12 Sep, 2007
It’s explains why there is no forum on Bitwig site. They are quiet now as politicians in an uncomfortable situation. I think they know what are they doing, if it only was a not well thought decision, response from them about this situation should be quick.
To bad cuz i was about to buy Bitwig.Now i must wait.
BTW. I was wondering how is that Image Line have free liftime upgrade and they are ok even with high inflation and Bitwig want more even when their update plan is high?
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 30 Jan, 2021
They do not interact with their users in any capacity except via emails to support.simmo75 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:58 pm Do Bitwig ever interact on KVR, I’m not seeing any replies, and they’re seriously hurting themselves.