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revvy · Post by **revvy** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:10 am

whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:05 am
jamcat wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:26 pm Soundtoys always seemed to be an Eventide imposter.
Not imposters. Soundtoys founders were the designers for some of Eventide's best-known products, like the H3000.

Yes but are they ’designer imposters ‘?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:15 am

revvy wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:10 am
whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:05 am
jamcat wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:26 pm Soundtoys always seemed to be an Eventide imposter.
Not imposters. Soundtoys founders were the designers for some of Eventide's best-known products, like the H3000.
Yes but are they ’designer imposters ‘?

Isnt 'design imposter' the definition of the entire audio software host and plugin industry?

Dencheg · Post by **Dencheg** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:18 am

I can't rate them, cause their copy protection isn't up to my alley

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:01 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:59 am I had the whole bunch of Soundtoys, kept them and never regretted.
Just sayin' ...

Yep. Same here. Just saying.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:07 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:05 am Soundtoys founders were the designers for some of Eventide's best-known products, like the H3000.

I didn't know that until recently, and would never have thought judging the plugins I know and own from them.

I like Eventide's stuff much more than Soundtoys, but, maybe I'm wrong in assuming that Eventide's more recent stuff builds up sonically on their very long legacy.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:57 pm

They still sound as good as they ever did...nothing has diminished over time; they are some of the best sounding fx you can buy. The 'rack' makes then far more useful than a collection of single VSTS, probably the reason I use ST most.
VST3 and M1 as free updates was nice, the developers seem very cool, always free stuff and new presets and supporting good causes. Just a big thumbs up from me.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:07 pm

https://www.kvraudio.com/news/soundtoys ... port-56092

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:29 pm

chk071 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:07 pm https://www.kvraudio.com/news/soundtoys ... port-56092

"We will continue to support both VST3 and VST2 formats for all products for the time being."

This tells me they are planning on dropping VST2 support at some point in the future.
It would be a good idea to swap out any VST2 instances with VST3 while you can.

dionenoid · Post by **dionenoid** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:23 am

It took a long time, but they did it right : vst3 versions automatically replace vst2 here.

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:36 pm

dionenoid wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:23 am It took a long time, but they did it right : vst3 versions automatically replace vst2 here.

That all depends on your DAW as well as the plugin apparently. Was just reading a post over at the Cubase forums where a user was having this issue with his plugins not getting replaced. According to some, its the plugin devs fault for not doing it properly, but the same thing happened to some during the ST beta test. SoundToys claimed it was the DAW for not implementing it properly.

Apparently they code all their VSTs strictly by the Steinberg book so they should work perfectly in Cubase, but other DAWs had some issues with it here and there that aren't exactly 100% up to spec.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:46 pm

I beta test for SB..
My DAWs of choice is Cubendo on mac and pc.
I am surprised a cubase user would have an issue, unless it is with an early beta.
I know some daws (like Reaper I believe) fixed issues during the long beta period of these so that their DAW too can seemlessly substitute ST vst2 for vst3.. As far as I know that too is working.

Don't much remember about other DAWS though tbh.
rsp

Sahul · Post by **Sahul** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:03 pm

mothra wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:36 pm That all depends on your DAW as well as the plugin apparently. Was just reading a post over at the Cubase forums where a user was having this issue with his plugins not getting replaced. According to some, its the plugin devs fault for not doing it properly, but the same thing happened to some during the ST beta test. SoundToys claimed it was the DAW for not implementing it properly.

I think that was a specific issue with Reaper and plugin names that contain hyphens, which was already fixed by Reaper's developer.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:26 pm

Sahul wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:03 pm
mothra wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:36 pm That all depends on your DAW as well as the plugin apparently. Was just reading a post over at the Cubase forums where a user was having this issue with his plugins not getting replaced. According to some, its the plugin devs fault for not doing it properly, but the same thing happened to some during the ST beta test. SoundToys claimed it was the DAW for not implementing it properly.
I think that was a specific issue with Reaper and plugin names that contain hyphens, which was already fixed by Reaper's developer.

Ah yes this was the Reaper fix I remember hearing of.
rsp

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:38 pm

Cubase 12 user here. No problems as far as I can see. They even list the plug ins as types now in the menu, rather than just a big list. It's the little things that matter.

RobGee · Post by **RobGee** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:11 pm

No issues in Cubase 12 Pro with vst 2 being replaced by vst 3 plugins in projects here so far.

Soundtoys are they now overated? My thinking is...