Spectral Crossover Ideas

[vectorwarrior]

I love Melda's crossovers, so much creative potential. Interestingly since Melda pioneered spectral crossovers a few years back lots of other developers are starting to build their own systems. Most of these aren't doing anything we can't already do in Melda, but Bitwig just dropped their Spectral Suite which has some interesting approaches.

https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/

The main one that caught my eye was the Harmonic Split. This extracts the fundamental into one band, other harmonics into another band, and non-harmonics into a third band.

I'd love to see this added to Melda's crossovers if possible. I noticed that there are some unused Crossover types (can't remember how I found this, I think it was in one of the multiparameter types, as 'unused' or something)... i wonder if Melda could implement this here? h

Thoughts? Any other cool spectral crossover ideas?

[Hexspa]

I have no idea but this kind of stuff makes me happy that Melda does lifetime all-inclusive updates.

[WasteLand]

Freq Spit and Harmonic Split is the most complicated to make or mimic in Melda, i think it is not possible.

i a way MCharacter does it.... but well... that is another aproach, still a great one, by the way. real spectal mangling.

transient/tonanl, spreq split, are covered.

there are other ways, not realtime perhaps, but Melda has a lot of spectral goodies, so in way, you approach it via Melda (and SpecOps, and not realtime; SpectraLayers or DeepAudio...)

[jmg8]

I love Melda's crossovers, so much creative potential. Interestingly since Melda pioneered spectral crossovers a few years back lots of other developers are starting to build their own systems. Most of these aren't doing anything we can't already do in Melda, but Bitwig just dropped their Spectral Suite which has some interesting approaches.

https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/

The main one that caught my eye was the Harmonic Split. This extracts the fundamental into one band, other harmonics into another band, and non-harmonics into a third band.

I'd love to see this added to Melda's crossovers if possible. I noticed that there are some unused Crossover types (can't remember how I found this, I think it was in one of the multiparameter types, as 'unused' or something)... i wonder if Melda could implement this here? h

Thoughts? Any other cool spectral crossover ideas?

Yes, I would like this also. Bitwig's Harmonic Split has another cool mode, where it separates odd and even harmonics.

[sirmonkey]

Do you have MXXX? If so, you could create a bunch of lanes, and use high & low pass filters on each lane. I don't know how well it would work, but then again I don't know why it wouldn't. Or you could use some sends in your DAW and do the same thing.

[vectorwarrior]

Do you have MXXX? If so, you could create a bunch of lanes, and use high & low pass filters on each lane. I don't know how well it would work, but then again I don't know why it wouldn't. Or you could use some sends in your DAW and do the same thing.

Yeah, I have MXXX, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing though. I can easily make a multiband separator using the crossover module in MXXX, you can even make a 32 band crossover using the 32 module (the crossover supports however many lanes there)... but we're talking about spectrally separating the audio in a way beyond just simple frequency ranges. The melda crossover module already contains two spectral modes, one that separates things based on spectral volume (a sort of threshold separator) and another than attempts to detect transients in the frequency realm. I'm suggesting adding some more using the bitwig product as inspiration.

[Veldar]

I agree if Melda release some more spectral stuff, and a way to send the different parts put via mxxx I would buy it in heart beat

[WasteLand]

I agree if Melda release some more spectral stuff, and a way to send the different parts put via mxxx I would buy it in heart beat

it doesn't have to be that Bitwig minded... Melda has a lot of spectral goodies already, MMorph, MCharacter, MTransformer, MSpectralDelay, etc.

in a way, a lot of spectral treatment etc. can derived from it, it is already built in the framework...

but more spectral stuff.... bin treatment....

well, one can dream, or perhaps, more?

[Held]

A crossover mode that separates into odd and even harmonics with the fundamental in the center could be fun.

[WasteLand]

A crossover mode that separates into odd and even harmonics with the fundamental in the center could be fun.

indeed!

[Veldar]

I agree if Melda release some more spectral stuff, and a way to send the different parts put via mxxx I would buy it in heart beat

it doesn't have to be that Bitwig minded... Melda has a lot of spectral goodies already, MMorph, MCharacter, MTransformer, MSpectralDelay, etc.

in a way, a lot of spectral treatment etc. can derived from it, it is already built in the framework...

but more spectral stuff.... bin treatment....

well, one can dream, or perhaps, more?

Yeah that's true, mspectraldynamic has saved some of my more busy mixes at least a couple of times. Between that and mautodynamic eq my sessions are a mess of side chained medla mixing

I could probably achieve similar results with envelope followers in Mxxx, I do really ees to give the manual another read and make some of my own patches.

[MeldaProduction]

Well, hopefully some day!