If you could have only one synth, what would you choose?

[gaggle of hermits]

Anyway, if someone here would ask which synth he should pick as his first synth, and I'd answer Kontakt, I'd get a slap in the face for sure.

the thread is "only one synth" not "first synth".

i would probably pick falcon for "only one synth" which, horror of horrors, has sample playback ("first synth" implies something a bit simpler and more basic).

i wouldn't be that unhappy with kontakt given that the scripting engine can be cajoled into doing some things that the core engine doesn't, which would take you into the kind of articulative-phrase synthesis of things like the roland v-synth, in principle (and falcon should be in the same ballpark).

so i'm not sure who is going to deliver that slap in the face you seem so worried about. maybe you should spend less time worrying about such things.

[Dencheg]

Now I think I'd take Adam's Viper

[gaggle of hermits]

does this exclusion extend to wavetable synths? if not, why not? a wavetable is simply a stored array of samples. ppg might want a word.

A waveform is not a sample.
A waveform is basically vector information, while sample is raster.

Samplers play recorded sounds, synths make new sounds from simple(ish) waveforms.

Samplers aren't synth, regardless of the amount of books stating otherwise

wavetable. the clue's in the name. i didn't mention waveforms.

they might look like vectors in serum's editor but they ain't.

[Dencheg]

Wavetable doesn't mean a wav file.
It's called "wavetable" just not to be called "waveformtable"
Waveforms in synths aren't rasters, historically.
They might look like they aren't vectors, but they are

[vurt]

Because I want to point out that samplers aren't synths.

roland made a very successful business out of selling synths with sampling engines as their basis for getting on for 40 years.

does this exclusion extend to wavetable synths? if not, why not? a wavetable is simply a stored array of samples. ppg might want a word.

A waveform is not a sample.
A waveform is basically vector information, while sample is raster.

Samplers play recorded sounds, synths make new sounds from simple(ish) waveforms.

Samplers aren't synth, regardless of the amount of books stating otherwise

samplers "can" playback recorded sounds, as they are recorded, but this isn't all a sampler can do with that same sample, it can also be used to create new unheard sounds, like a synth...

[gaggle of hermits]

They might look like they aren't, but they are

all those files with the .wav extension must be for something else then. good to know. so, help me out, where does serum store these vector waveforms, pray tell? cos maybe i can delete a gig or two of clearly redundant .wav files purporting to be wavetables.

what is it with all the "i can't use samples" people? do the wavs carry some dread disease or something?

[whyterabbyt]

A waveform is not a sample.
A waveform is basically vector information, while sample is raster.

Incorrect. The waveforms found in digital synths, unless calculated on the fly and thus not stored at all, are not stored as vectors, they are stored as sequences of values, ie samples.

Samplers play recorded sounds, synths make new sounds from simple(ish) waveforms.

Incomplete. Some samplers play nonrecorded sounds, some synths make new sounds from complex samples.

Samplers aren't synth, regardless of the amount of books stating otherwise

Despite your first two mistakes, we'll all rush to take your word for that.

[whyterabbyt]

Wavetable doesn't mean a wav file.

No, it means a table that stores the values that constitute a waveform.

It's called "wavetable" just not to be called "waveformtable"

False.

Waveforms in synths aren't rasters, historically.

Waveforms in synths are arrays of sequential stored amplitude values, not vectors, historically.

They might look like they aren't vectors, but they are

Describe exactly how a stored amplitude is a vector, not an amplitude. How is the direction stored?

[Uncle E]

Ok, then recommend me a Kontakt library which is similar to what Sylenth1 does then.

I don’t know if it exists yet but it’s definitely possible. Check out Klassik 106, it’s a synth.

[gaggle of hermits]

Now I think I'd take Adam's Viper

man, you are going to be so pissed when you find out how the virus waves are stored.

[fmr]

Now I think I'd take Adam's Viper

man, you are going to be so pissed when you find out how the virus waves are stored.

[HAL76]

If you would have nuts and lived in the 90s you´d definitely know what what samplers and ROMpler can do.

[HAL76]

Because I want to point out that samplers aren't synths.

roland made a very successful business out of selling synths with sampling engines as their basis for getting on for 40 years.

does this exclusion extend to wavetable synths? if not, why not? a wavetable is simply a stored array of samples. ppg might want a word.

A waveform is not a sample.
A waveform is basically vector information, while sample is raster.

Samplers play recorded sounds, synths make new sounds from simple(ish) waveforms.

Samplers aren't synth, regardless of the amount of books stating otherwise

Did you already know that you can load any wavetable - be it 2048 or 256 samples long - load it into a sampler and loop it?

Did you ever really care about this topic or create your own tables?

[ReiKru]

What is this thread about?

[zerocrossing]

What is this thread about?

Dealing with loss.