DAWs should always be capturing our performances. why do we even have "record" button ?
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
It will be eventually implemented by every DAW against the complains of the Mozart(s)
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- KVRAF
- 7315 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
I'd use this quite a lot. Most of my musical ideas are written when I'm not focusing on technology or computers or anything.
I write like I'm in a grotty practice room in the 1970's, and I record like I'm in 2022 with all the doohickies surrounding me.
If I mix the two up, music doesn't get done. That's how it is for me.
I write like I'm in a grotty practice room in the 1970's, and I record like I'm in 2022 with all the doohickies surrounding me.
If I mix the two up, music doesn't get done. That's how it is for me.
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
i had to read some real shit here at kvr every now and then. but your post set a new mark.greententacle wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:19 pm if you can't repeat your performance, it's probably shit. or you're not a musican.
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- KVRian
- 763 posts since 26 Sep, 2007
Can't wait for this to be a thing in all the DAWs.
Happy accidents happen, and sometimes they're perfect just as they were, and hard to recreate. Screw the "not a musician" snobbery. Why recreate magic if you can capture it? I know that I play best when I'm not trying too hard.
Gol (creator of FL Studio) was a big fan of the idea, but he only implemented it for midi recording in FL due to technical constraints. (Though there is Edison's "audio logger" feature that constantly records a rolling buffer of X minutes in the background once set up.)
Happy accidents happen, and sometimes they're perfect just as they were, and hard to recreate. Screw the "not a musician" snobbery. Why recreate magic if you can capture it? I know that I play best when I'm not trying too hard.
Gol (creator of FL Studio) was a big fan of the idea, but he only implemented it for midi recording in FL due to technical constraints. (Though there is Edison's "audio logger" feature that constantly records a rolling buffer of X minutes in the background once set up.)
This point is only really relevant when recording something from scratch though. In that case, the DAW could try to guess the tempo from what was recorded. Otherwise you could always hit play and enable the metronome independently of the recording state. In either case, you'll be able to retrieve what you recorded and fit it into the timeline (or clip launcher) after the fact.pdxindy wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:31 pm The record button has one important function... it turns on the metronome.
So with no record button does that mean you have a metronome going the whole time? If not, how do ones recordings get put to a tempo and timeline?
Why would you not record it? It'd just happen in the background, and the file discarded if you didn't capture it after a certain time limit. It's a convenience feature, one less thing to think aboutJafo wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:43 pm Sometimes I'm practicing. Sometimes I'm just goofing around, or testing sounds. Why would I record that? If I find something I like, I can always play it again and record that.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
so you think if we all dont do things exactly as you we must be shit? I suggest you stop now and not even respond to this because I am not babysitting this thread too. Stay out of this thread plz.greententacle wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:19 pm if you can't repeat your performance, it's probably shit. or you're not a musican.
for OP:
For the idea, I have songs with thousands of takes because that's how I do it, I would love this. TBH I am not selling a product here, I am a guitar player who loves to play. I am not after the same performance like was suggested, I am going where my heart and soul is taking me in that particular moment, that is my passion.
However I disagree with the idea that you lose inspiration, for me all those steps getting ready to play are inspiration in themselves, I am actually conditioned to this. It literally helps flip the switch in my mind, not much unlike authors who keep their desks exactly the same way to inspire creativity when you sit down to write YMMV
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- KVRist
- 341 posts since 30 Nov, 2008
no, didn't said that. but probably you are.Hink wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:18 pmso you think if we all dont do things exactly as you we must be shit? I suggest you stop now and not even respond to this because I am not babysitting this thread too. Stay out of this thread plz.greententacle wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:19 pm if you can't repeat your performance, it's probably shit. or you're not a musican.
for OP:
For the idea, I have songs with thousands of takes because that's how I do it, I would love this. TBH I am not selling a product here, I am a guitar player who loves to play. I am not after the same performance like was suggested, I am going where my heart and soul is taking me in that particular moment, that is my passion.
However I disagree with the idea that you lose inspiration, for me all those steps getting ready to play are inspiration in themselves, I am actually conditioned to this. It literally helps flip the switch in my mind, not much unlike authors who keep their desks exactly the same way to inspire creativity when you sit down to write YMMV![]()
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRian
- 853 posts since 12 May, 2004
I use Retrospective Record on Cubase all the time. It has turned out to be a very handy feature. But it is MIDI only.Amberience wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:56 pm I'd use this quite a lot. Most of my musical ideas are written when I'm not focusing on technology or computers or anything.
I like the idea of an optional “retrospective recording audio” mode for a selected track (or tracks) when you simply push PLAY to rehearse or just jam. But the system has be designed to stop recording in the background when the sequence is stopped (like it does in Cubase). There is a limit to storage, after all.
Doesn’t seem like something too hard to implement…I’m all for it.
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- KVRAF
- 1787 posts since 22 Feb, 2014
Retrospective recording is something I've been meaning to look into, but I wasn't sure which DAWs supported it. Some kind soul (a human being with feelings, no less!) on the Reaper forum posted this list last year - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=258311
- KVRAF
- 7669 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
ableton Note detects the tempo, i think Live tries to fit it into the tempo of the projectpdxindy wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:31 pmIn theory I like the idea.TS-12 wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:56 pm came across this short article, and it really made me think why don't DAWs all have this way of recording ?
The record button has one important function... it turns on the metronome.
So with no record button does that mean you have a metronome going the whole time? If not, how do ones recordings get put to a tempo and timeline?
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- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
Yesterday I recorded myself tuning up and browsing around and selecting plugins to put on.
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- KVRAF
- 26961 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I was assuming that always recording meant whether transport was playing or not.Dionysos wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:11 pmThis point is only really relevant when recording something from scratch though. In that case, the DAW could try to guess the tempo from what was recorded. Otherwise you could always hit play and enable the metronome independently of the recording state.pdxindy wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:31 pm The record button has one important function... it turns on the metronome.