Is the Virtual Instrument era over?

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tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:22 pm
CLAP is certainly getting traction. I think it is the best thing that happened to plugins in a long time:
You can say that again :hihi:

CLAP is off to an impressive start!

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yup, already taking notes of all my plugins that already have CLAP support when Reaper is finally ready too, so i will re-install them again, as i've only VST2 versions installed, except for the odd exception that's VST3 only
The GAS is always greener on the other side!

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I don't want the CLAP yet.

Not until it's been established for a few years.
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too. :lol:

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Why are you putting forward arguments that are not backed up with facts, just to keep the dialogue going? Jeez

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ramseysounds wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:07 pm Why are you putting forward arguments that are not backed up with facts, just to keep the dialogue going? Jeez

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If you disagree, make your arguments.

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My thoughts? CPU processing power is getting stronger and faster all the time. VI are a fraction of the cost of HW. Studios are closing. More and more people are making music on laptops. VI makes music more accessible. But yeah, VI has had its day and will no longer sell anything. Oh and yeah you make posts just to be seen and keep the dialogue going with unproven comments. That ok? 🙄
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:43 am - Economic turmoil means less discretionary spending
- Interest rates are going to slow credit card purchases
Those factors tend to support the Virtual Instrument industry over the hardware synth industry. You can get a full featured softsynth for around $200 or less and while there are some cheap hardware synths coming out these days, to get something full featured could cost in the thousands. So economic turmoil would tend to work against high ticket items in favor of less costly options.

Is the VI era over? Most certainly not. Is it slowing down? Perhaps but there are several projects in the works that I am exited to see released and they will almost certainly be insta-buys for me so progress does continue. Maybe we don't see a new softsynth drop practically every day like in years past but progress does continue.

Are some people going DAW-less? Sure but I'd retire from music before I ever went back to being Dawless.

The bottom line is we have no solid facts or statistics in our hands to prove or disprove the theory so in the end it's all just speculation. Do you have the exact hardware synth sales figures from Sweetwater? Software synth sales figures from Arturia or Cherry or N.I. or ?) Without them no valid conclusion can be drawn. Opinions can be formed but no valid conclusion can be made.
tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:43 amYour thoughts?
My thoughts? Just because a thread has the word "instrument" in it does not mean it belongs in the instrument forum. That's why we have the "Everything Else (Music Related)" forum for these types of (in my opinion) pointless speculation threads.

Hey you asked...... :shrug:
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'FACTS'

Someone is confusing facts with opinions :lol:

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tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:43 pm
Unaspected wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:32 pm
tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:26 pm
Robmobius wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:22 pm
tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:43 am FACTS:
- DAW-less production has become a big trend
Your thoughts?
lol
Which video is yours?
None of them...
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ramseysounds wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:25 pm My thoughts? CPU processing power is getting stronger and faster all the time. VI are a fraction of the cost of HW. Studios are closing. More and more people are making music on laptops. VI makes music more accessible. But yeah, VI has had its day and will no longer sell anything. Oh and yeah you make posts just to be seen and keep the dialogue going with unproven comments. That ok? 🙄
Then why are we seeing all these wonderful new hardware synths and very few new software ones?
There is a lot larger profit margins in hardware these days and no worries about piracy.

Do you think companies can keep afloat from virtual instruments that you bought several years ago? That is why many of them are attempting to switch to subscription models.

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Neon Breath wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:33 pm 'FACTS'

Someone is confusing facts with opinions :lol:
Then prove me wrong!

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tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:26 pm
Robmobius wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:22 pm
tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:43 am FACTS:
- DAW-less production has become a big trend
Your thoughts?
lol


Destroyed with LOGIC and REASON!







(well those and FL Studio and Live and Cubase...)

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Teksonik wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:30 pm
tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:43 am - Economic turmoil means less discretionary spending
- Interest rates are going to slow credit card purchases
Those factors tend to support the Virtual Instrument industry over the hardware synth industry. You can get a full featured softsynth for around $200 or less and while there are some cheap hardware synths coming out these days, to get something full featured could cost in the thousands. So economic turmoil would tend to work against high ticket items in favor of less costly options.
Perhaps, or perhaps not. VI synth prices will also increase. Time will tell.
Teksonik wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:30 pm
"Is the VI era over? Most certainly not. Is it slowing down? Perhaps but there are several projects in the works that I am exited to see released and they will almost certainly be insta-buys for me so progress does continue. Maybe we don't see a new softsynth drop practically every day like in years past but progress does continue."
Hopefully, companies can hold on long enough to make them. If you read the devs forums, they are having a tough time just doing maintenance upgrades (example: Apple Silicon).
Teksonik wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:30 pm
Are some people going DAW-less? Sure but I'd retire from music before I ever went back to being Dawless.
That is you...you are not everyone. Elecktron, Akai, Polyend, and others seem to be successful by promoting that workflow.
Teksonik wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:30 pm
The bottom line is we have no solid facts or statistics in our hands to prove or disprove the theory so in the end it's all just speculation. Do you have the exact hardware synth sales figures from Sweetwater? Software synth sales figures from Arturia or Cherry or N.I. or ?) Without them no valid conclusion can be drawn. Opinions can be formed but no valid conclusion can be made.
“You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows…” Bob Dylan

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i remember back when guitars stopped being made, because everyone got in to electronic music.
and when home taping killed music :(
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tony10000 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:37 pm
Neon Breath wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:33 pm 'FACTS'

Someone is confusing facts with opinions :lol:
Then prove me wrong!
No thanks. Up to you backup your claims, not me. And no, Youtube with videos made by all kind of average Joes is not a solid reliable source of information.

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