I think ideally it would work like Note where you just start tapping away and it will kick off the transport and guess the tempo and create a clip automatically when you stop playing because it should already be buffering that stuff in memory anyway. The slick thing about Note is that it shows it to you in a way that's usable immediately and gives you the option to add or discard whatever it's recording.pdxindy wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:13 pmI was assuming that always recording meant whether transport was playing or not.Dionysos wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:11 pmThis point is only really relevant when recording something from scratch though. In that case, the DAW could try to guess the tempo from what was recorded. Otherwise you could always hit play and enable the metronome independently of the recording state.pdxindy wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:31 pm The record button has one important function... it turns on the metronome.
DAWs should always be capturing our performances. why do we even have "record" button ?
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- KVRian
- 1404 posts since 17 Oct, 2018
Studio One // Bitwig // Logic Pro // Ableton // Reason // FLStudio // MPC // Force // Maschine
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- KVRist
- 166 posts since 2 Jul, 2012 from Singapore
DAW is not a wife. Wife records all that was spoken by you and remembers for life.
Be happy that there is something called DAW that records only when told and that can be fully deleted.
Regards.
Be happy that there is something called DAW that records only when told and that can be fully deleted.
Regards.
maanga
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- KVRian
- 1342 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
Retrospective recording is a great feature but please don't remove the record button.
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
- Beware the Quoth
- 35439 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
yay for driveby misogynistic analogies!maanga wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:18 am DAW is not a wife. Wife records all that was spoken by you and remembers for life.
Be happy that there is something called DAW that records only when told and that can be fully deleted.
Regards.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 816 posts since 15 Jun, 2018
Always on recording for MIDI seems to be pretty common among DAWs with audio slowly catching up. It's probably harder to implement due to CPU demands and hard disk space. Imagine running a DAW session for six hours. Nonstop background recording would result in almost 6 GB of one or many files. Not too much, but still demanding for many slower machines.
Always on automation recording as it is done in Note by Ableton would be great. Turn a knob during playback, but a button to write said movement into automation.
Always on automation recording as it is done in Note by Ableton would be great. Turn a knob during playback, but a button to write said movement into automation.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35439 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I dont think a lot of DAWs do 'always recording' retrospective MIDI though, do they? I thought it was generally 'always listening' on a rolling buffer. Ableton, for example, only records up to 16000 odd events, dropping the oldest 1000 as it needs to.jules99 wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:07 pm Always on recording for MIDI seems to be pretty common among DAWs with audio slowly catching up. It's probably harder to implement due to CPU demands and hard disk space. Imagine running a DAW session for six hours. Nonstop background recording would result in almost 6 GB of one or many files. Not too much, but still demanding for many slower machines.
If one was to implement it for audio, the same would be expected, ideally providing the user with a choice of buffer time or space usage would be best option.
Thought, TBH, 6Gb of storage doesnt sound that much to me these days.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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mountainmaster mountainmaster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=153531
- KVRian
- 621 posts since 10 Jun, 2007 from Netherlands
I may well be an exception but I don't have a keyboard (or any other midi input) connected to my DAW. When I write music I draw the notes in the piano roll and add modulation, pitch bends etc. manually. So what would I have to record?
If people want this feature it is fine by me, as long as I can still turn it off.
If people want this feature it is fine by me, as long as I can still turn it off.
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- KVRian
- 762 posts since 26 Sep, 2007
I don't think there'd be much to turn off if you don't even have any midi or audio inputs.mountainmaster wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:58 pm If people want this feature it is fine by me, as long as I can still turn it off.
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- KVRian
- 1404 posts since 17 Oct, 2018
I mean you are probably not pressing the record button anyway in your workflows so there is nothing to turn off in your case.mountainmaster wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:58 pm I may well be an exception but I don't have a keyboard (or any other midi input) connected to my DAW. When I write music I draw the notes in the piano roll and add modulation, pitch bends etc. manually. So what would I have to record?
If people want this feature it is fine by me, as long as I can still turn it off.
Studio One // Bitwig // Logic Pro // Ableton // Reason // FLStudio // MPC // Force // Maschine
- KVRAF
- 1787 posts since 22 Feb, 2014
No feature will appeal to everyone. Maybe this one isn't for you.mountainmaster wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:58 pm I may well be an exception but I don't have a keyboard (or any other midi input) connected to my DAW. When I write music I draw the notes in the piano roll and add modulation, pitch bends etc. manually. So what would I have to record?
If people want this feature it is fine by me, as long as I can still turn it off.
I could see the value if you forget to record something and need to recapture it after you have made changes to your sequencer/piano roll.
Another use case could be when using randomization or probability with a sequencer and not recording everything as you're dialing it in.
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mountainmaster mountainmaster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=153531
- KVRian
- 621 posts since 10 Jun, 2007 from Netherlands
That is a good one. I often use randomization and then I end up recording many mixdowns from which I pick the best one. And yes, sometimes the mixdowns keep turning out less satisfactory than that magical first "take".telecharge wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:06 pm Another use case could be when using randomization or probability with a sequencer and not recording everything as you're dialing it in.
And then there was that time when I created a preset and an update of the synth made it sound totally different.
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- KVRAF
- 2312 posts since 9 Jun, 2002 from East of Santa Monica
Many DAWS do have the option, and that's great, but I certainly wouldn't want it as the default behavior.
I'm not sure why people are arguing for or against it (Other than this being KVR).
I'm not sure why people are arguing for or against it (Other than this being KVR).
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 5 Apr, 2019 from Melbourne
Wouldn't that be terrible for performance?
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- KVRist
- 213 posts since 28 Aug, 2021
it will at the cost of CPU and disk performance but with modern day CPU power, I don't see the downside of it. modern CPU and SSD has a lot power overhead for processing audio.
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- KVRAF
- 1863 posts since 11 Apr, 2008
Yeah but Read/Write even of SSDs is not unlimited and constant writing, several hours per day would wear them faster.darkinners wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:48 amit will at the cost of CPU and disk performance but with modern day CPU power, I don't see the downside of it. modern CPU and SSD has a lot power overhead for processing audio.