When do you think Logic Pro 11 will come out?

[Spencer Maddox]

I would really like updated guis for the old stuff like ES2, ESX24 etc. They hurt my eyes but certainly not my ears.

I just opened up Sculpture. It's been in there for 20 years and I'm still WTF?-ing when I see it.

Also, the new Sampler plugin is the replacement for EXS24, with the added Quick Sampler. Utrabeat was replaced by Drum Machine Designer, more or less. All the other original synths need updating, however.

I think the argument Apple would have to not touching them yet would be that they have technically been "replaced" by Alchemy and Retro Synth as far as functionality is concerned. But I agree, I wish they would just Revamp them. Don't even have to do anything fancy, just a graphics lift.
Especially EFM1 Funny enough. One of my fav little basic FM synths.

[BoogerSnot]

10.7.5: Record MIDI FX to tracks.

'Bout time.

[Weasel-Boy]

The new Gain Tool is a bit iffy running under 12.6.1 on a M1.

On audio tracks, it takes a second or two before you hear the results of a boost or cut. It’s not instantaneous, and there appears to be a bug: if I raise the level on my bottom-most audio track, it only raises the volume for the first 1/4 second or so and then drops to the original 0 level for the duration of the track. All audio tracks above it work as expected. This glitch doesn’t affect instrument tracks.

A plus for using the tool on audio tracks is a contextual dB numeric value as you raise and lower the 0 line. Not so for virtual instruments. You have no indication of how many dB you are raising or lowering an instrument track.

YMMV but that’s what’s going on on my installation. And completely repeatable.

[ozinga]

The new Gain Tool is a bit iffy running under 12.6.1 on a M1.

Not so for virtual instruments. You have no indication of how many dB you are raising or lowering an instrument track.

On Instrument tracks you are raising or lowering the relative velocity amount that is on the inspector, where you can see the amount as you adjust.

Gain Tool.gif

[adn_01]

I would really like updated guis for the old stuff like ES2, ESX24 etc. They hurt my eyes but certainly not my ears.

I just opened up Sculpture. It's been in there for 20 years and I'm still WTF?-ing when I see it.

Also, the new Sampler plugin is the replacement for EXS24, with the added Quick Sampler. Utrabeat was replaced by Drum Machine Designer, more or less. All the other original synths need updating, however.

I think the argument Apple would have to not touching them yet would be that they have technically been "replaced" by Alchemy and Retro Synth as far as functionality is concerned. But I agree, I wish they would just Revamp them. Don't even have to do anything fancy, just a graphics lift.
Especially EFM1 Funny enough. One of my fav little basic FM synths.

I don't know how Sculpute has been replaced by Alchemy... It's just quite another kind of synth, Sculpture can be a real beast if treated well and used properly (mixing issues, it just "stands out"). But yes, it needs interface upgrade, the current one is outdated and hard to learn for newcomers...

[Johnnyjohn]

Crashing a lot for me - macOS Ventura

[chagzuki]

Not upgraded yet. I'm wondering if the nested track stacks (and other features) creates extra cpu load?

[Weasel-Boy]

The new Gain Tool is a bit iffy running under 12.6.1 on a M1.

On Instrument tracks you are raising or lowering the relative velocity amount that is on the inspector, where you can see the amount as you adjust.

I see, and thanks for the GIF.

This is a another good example of what I meant by “iffy”. In this case, because of the inconsistency of the value display mechanism (and its location).

I fully expected the tool’s contextual value display to remain in place over instrument tracks. And now that I really look at it…I have have to ask: why the low resolution steps of velocity instead of an instrument’s actual audio volume? You know, so it matches the dB steps of an audio track and displaying in a consistent manner.

[ozinga]

The new Gain Tool is a bit iffy running under 12.6.1 on a M1.

On Instrument tracks you are raising or lowering the relative velocity amount that is on the inspector, where you can see the amount as you adjust.

I see, and thanks for the GIF.

This is a another good example of what I meant by “iffy”. In this case, because of the inconsistency of the value display mechanism (and its location).

I fully expected the tool’s contextual value display to remain in place over instrument tracks. And now that I really look at it…I have have to ask: why the low resolution steps of velocity instead of an instrument’s actual audio volume? You know, so it matches the dB steps of an audio track and displaying in a consistent manner.

Honestly, I find no use of it at all either.

But if it worked as you suggested, it would be complicated, because once you decide to reduce or raise one region, the whole instrument track will go down in level. So it becomes useless.

I still prefer the Gain plugin with Region Automation both for Audio and Midi. Because Region Gain in Logic is static unlike Protools which has nodes and curves.

[Jolaff]

Another layer of track stack is very welcome but unfortunately we can't save an Apple Loop if it contains 2 layers of track stack ...one is ok but not 2...

[chagzuki]

Just updated and projects now take ridiculously long to load with several pauses during the process, on M1 Pro, Monterey. Anyone else having this issue?

[jonljacobi]

I gave up after it told me I needed macOS 12.3 rather than my 12.1. Nothing new I actually need. Either in Logic, 12.3 or Ventura. I may eventually upgrade, but I get tired of this constant codependent development/planned obsolescence thing.

[spaceman]

I gave up after it told me I needed macOS 12.3 rather than my 12.1. Nothing new I actually need. Either in Logic, 12.3 or Ventura. I may eventually upgrade, but I get tired of this constant codependent development/planned obsolescence thing.

I agree

[dayjob]

I gave up after it told me I needed macOS 12.3 rather than my 12.1. Nothing new I actually need. Either in Logic, 12.3 or Ventura. I may eventually upgrade, but I get tired of this constant codependent development/planned obsolescence thing.

have had zero problems w/MacOS 12.6 if that matters. gonna hang here for a while though. no need to jump on Ventura. that shit is too fresh. i usually wait a long time to even go to the .x updates but the 12.x scenario has been uncomplicated for me on Apple Silicon.

[sQeetz]

No problem whatsoever on Ventura