Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[telecharge]

I hate plugin prices
 

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[licasto2]

UVI Prime 8+ FREE
Voucher Code: FREEP8
https://www.uvi.net/en/vintage-synth/prime-8-plus.html

Just to save someone the time I wasted, this requires an iLok account and installation of the "UVI Portal" which is basically their store front.

Some people are so entitled. Pathetic post of the month award goes to you!

Sorry, you just won that award back by posting such vitriol.

Anyway yea I'm entitled, to keep my system free of intrusive CP schemes and thereby protect its stability.

You have to learn that just because something is free doesn't automatically give it value.

I've been using an iLok since 2001 and have NEVER had a problem. I actually prefer it. Maybe it's not the tools but the user??? As a mater of fact, iLok is the ONLY cp I've never had a problem with. Good luck with challenge/response, etc. if a company goes out of business. I have licenses on my iLok 1 from companies that are long gone that will still work on a Mac OS9 system if I wanted them to.

[chrisstiles]

Izotope Cyber Season starts.
Neoverb for £25 on the homepage or if i go through my loyalty offers I can buy it for a bargain of £178! Wonder if that will catch anyone out...
Question is will we see any nice deals on Neutron cross/upgrades. Thats what Im holding out for.

Just bought it with the PA $1 plugin subscription ffs. I hate plugin prices

Though atm these successive discounts for their non-premium products seem to go along with putting things into maintenance mode.

[Teksonik]

I've been using an iLok since 2001 and have NEVER had a problem. I actually prefer it. Maybe it's not the tools but the user??? As a mater of fact, iLok is the ONLY cp I've never had a problem with. Good luck with challenge/response, etc. if a company goes out of business. I have licenses on my iLok 1 from companies that are long gone that will still work on a Mac OS9 system if I wanted them to.

We were talking about the iLok soft manager here and yes it is the user. The user that doesn't mind if a company feels so entitled that they should be allowed to install whatever intrusive third party app that they have no control over they want on your system.

The ilok soft manager does you no good whatsoever and gets its hooks so far into your system that it can cause it not to boot if something goes wrong. Remember "I've never had a problem" does not equal there can be no problems. That is down more to luck than any perceived "skill".

I've only had one problem with the iLok soft manager over the years. One day I booted up and all my licenses were gone even though they were fine the day before and I took no action in between. It took faffing about with Pace not the plugin developers themselves because they couldn't help since the app is not theirs to get the issue resolved.

It was the Air music debacle that brought to light just how much of a stability risk the iLok soft manager can be and since then I no longer support developers that use it and I haven't called up an iLok infected plugin in almost two years. I only keep it installed now for some really old projects.

But if you feel comfortable giving the stability of your system over to plugin developers just because they feel the need to use Pace (when many many developers of top notch plugins do not) then more power to you. If you feel comfortable paying extra for a dongle just to protect someone else's intellectual property even though your IP can't be similarly protected then more power to you. I don't insult you for those choices.

The "what if a company goes out of business" argument fall apart when you realize Pace is just a company as well.

I've never lost a C/R plugin yet.

Anyway once again my first post was just to give people who don't use iLok a heads up so they don't waste their time on this freebie.

If that triggered the Defenders of iLok then so be it. This debate has raged on for decades and will for as long as Pace exists. This isn't the forum for continuing the debate so I'll be happy to move on if you'll just stop quoting me.

[ChamomileShark]

It's probably worth making the point that Prime8 requires ilok for those who have not already got Falcon or the UVI player but do we really have to re-hash the whole "I hate ilok/ I love ilok" debate in the thread about bargains?

After all we've not concluded the whole PC vs Mac, Hardware vs Software, 32bit vs 64 bit and "this plugin" versus every other plugin discussions.

[nirm123]

UVI Prime 8+ FREE
Voucher Code: FREEP8
https://www.uvi.net/en/vintage-synth/prime-8-plus.html

Just to save someone the time I wasted, this requires an iLok account and installation of the "UVI Portal" which is basically their store front.

Some people are so entitled. Pathetic post of the month award goes to you!

Sorry, you just won that award back by posting such vitriol.

Anyway yea I'm entitled, to keep my system free of intrusive CP schemes and thereby protect its stability.

You have to learn that just because something is free doesn't automatically give it value.

I've been using an iLok since 2001 and have NEVER had a problem. I actually prefer it. Maybe it's not the tools but the user??? As a mater of fact, iLok is the ONLY cp I've never had a problem with. Good luck with challenge/response, etc. if a company goes out of business. I have licenses on my iLok 1 from companies that are long gone that will still work on a Mac OS9 system if I wanted them to.

Same here, never had any problem with iLok.

Unless you're an overly hysterical/paranoid person, iLok would do just fine.

[escalona]

It's probably worth making the point that Prime8 requires ilok for those who have not already got Falcon or the UVI player but do we really have to re-hash the whole "I hate ilok/ I love ilok" debate in the thread about bargains?

After all we've not concluded the whole PC vs Mac, Hardware vs Software, 32bit vs 64 bit and "this plugin" versus every other plugin discussions.

Agreed. We could also continue discussing the Waves WUP next, right here, on the bargains thread, because it makes a lot of sense, doesn't' it?

[Aloysius]

WUP = Bad
iLok = Good
Mac = for kids

[WatchTheGuitar]

White and Gold or Blue and Black dress?

[telecharge]

Don't you know that KVR is the place for grumpy old man complaining and petty squabbling?

At least with the holiday season upon us, you'll have seasonals like me to liven up the joint.

[El°HYM]

Foes list = Bad
Friends list = Good
KVR = for kids

[seangm]

nvm

[martinjuenke]

Bargains are somehow antisocial.
Developers should receive full remuneration for their efforts!
To buy cheap is to steal money out of their small pockets!!
Bad behaviour!!!

[gExpectations]

Bargains are somehow antisocial.
Developers should receive full remuneration for their efforts!
To buy cheap is to steal money out of their small pockets!!
Bad behaviour!!!

true even bitwig rescinded their evil practices of trying to sell software

[gExpectations]

wait, i just had brain lag but will not retract my statement