KVR Audio

whassup · Post by **whassup** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:20 pm

Yeah, got both, they're cool. Diva is the standard for me for analog weight. Zebra is rather the chameleon. The Zebra3 thingy is interesting though.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:34 pm

machinesworking wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:02 pmKnifonium, Plasmonic, FM8 etc. are all specifically designed to do a few types of synthesis well, this has to count as one of the most idiotic holes you've dug for yourself.

OK, I'm not going to argue point by point, although I would say that FM8 is a development of FM7, which was a direct DX-7 clone, and the DX-7 was responsible for broadening the sonic palette of synth players more than any instrument in history and pretty much replaced every other synth out there. But...
... the only thing I need to prove the stupidity of your argument is One Synth Challenge. Every month people create release-quality music using just a single instrument for every part. Month after month, dozens of high quality entries, using just a single, nominated instrument. So by now they must have gone through hundreds of synths, comprehensively proving that any half-decent synth can do a credible job of any part you might need. Surely you can see how your argument falls to pieces in front of that simple reality?

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:40 pm

My list of Synths I would love to love, but can't is:
f'em - too much going on, what's up with all that layers? why? One simple engine is more than enough

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:14 am

Massive X...

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:33 am

Lately, ALL of them! But there's always something there to annoy me... No matter how much livestock I sacrifice, nobody seems to produce the perfect synth!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:06 am

SebAV wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:49 am I love the sound but I prefer something like Aalto (as an example of a « modular » kind of synth)

Aalto is not really modular. The signal path is fixed.

inaheartbeat · Post by **inaheartbeat** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:49 am

Knifonium softsynth is something I really am disappointed in and really wanted to love. I owned the first Knifonium that Jonte Knif sold (you can see my demo of it on YouTube...I am kpsiegel there and in GS.) I sold it several years ago and when I saw that there was a soft synth developed with Jonte to emulate it I was very excited. It was the only reason I signed up for Plugin Alliance Mega bundle. I cannot believe how far from the actual sound of a Knifonium the softsynth is. Hopefully, over time it may get better but for right now it is a massive disappointment to me. I have tried multiple times to play with it to see if maybe it was just a mood thing but it is just NOT GOOD.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:39 am

I thought it was really good for $39. Nice sound, good to work with. I couldn't care less if it does or doesn't sound like some useless piece of hardware.

whassup · Post by **whassup** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:51 pm

BONES wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:34 pm One Synth Challenge. Every month people create release-quality music using just a single instrument for every part. Month after month, dozens of high quality entries, using just a single, nominated instrument. So by now they must have gone through hundreds of synths, comprehensively proving that any half-decent synth can do a credible job of any part you might need.

Yep. My thoughts. Take the winner entries side by side. And then say which synth is which.

The thing where it changes is my and your personal experience.

I like certain sounds, characters, sweet spots etc. Certain synths with certain presets give me certain positive reactions.

There are synths which I personally don't like to program. But other people made awesome presets with them. They found sweet spots that I didn't find myself or worked around things that I don't like in a certain synth in a way that I wouldn't have done. Filters are a great topic there.

And then I simply don't care for what that thingy can't do. It can do exactly this.

So it boils down to sweet spots in a synth. If it has many or the whole thing screams SWEET SPOT! then yeah. If it's halfway usable then I do.

briefcasemanx · Post by **briefcasemanx** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:26 pm

AAS stuff. I own the full bundle but never use it.

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:41 pm

Serum.

Tobi MM · Post by **Tobi MM** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:04 pm

Absolute Hate though trying to love: Pigments (to the point i sold it just to have it gone). Interface awful, nothing clicked, and if i want something viscious to hide in the mix, i'd open hive, at least i can use that without the need of looking away (oh, and In-App-Shops pls go to hell).

Sad story too: NI Super 8. Wonderful Interface, but sadly sounds like poop.

Two others were saved by Plugmon (Aiko for Diva) and Killihu (Duneton for Dune, although i'd use it with his typical skin, sounds to good not to, but the new ableton-like outfit is a bliss).

MJACau · Post by **MJACau** » Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:47 am

Modo Drums and the high CPU usage, running a 5900x with 64mb of ram. Maybe I will love it again when I upgrade to Zen 4.

Boy Wonder · Post by **Boy Wonder** » Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:54 am

MJACau wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:47 am Modo Drums and the high CPU usage, running a 5900x with 64mb of ram. Maybe I will love it again when I upgrade to Zen 4.

When I read reviews like these, it's the reason why I don't bother upgrading my laptop's 16GB RAM to 32 or 64. It doesn't matter.

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:34 am

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Full Bucket's synths. Absolutely, fantastically, exquisitely AWESOME -- until you try to play them like a piano. I guess I'm looking for a keys instrument, rather than a synth; very different beasts.

I WANT to love it...