Kiive Audio ADC1 Chandler Limiter

[Septic Underground]

Very meh this one. With a quirky GUI and a very standard sound imo, nothing special. Tried it on EDM stuff, maybe it is for more acoustic stuff.

[imrae]

I dislike these kind of thumbs too, but i'm not the one who make the rules. If people prefer to click on videos with stupid faces i can do nothing. Even very big and popular youtubers need to do that. That's a rule.

Nobody has a gun to their head. They only “need” to do these things to get more clicks on YouTube.

Which leads to the real issue here: this is a forum, the main form of communication is text and images. The text you posted tells us very little about the plugin, and was accompanied by an annoying image.

If I want to see gurning novices flick through presets without level-matching while declaring the latest product release “dope” and “awesome” without a semblance of meaningful context or comparison, then as you say Youtube is keen to direct me to that sort of thing. I don’t know how much of that description applies to your work, but I do know that you’ve adopted their style of presentation. And if somebody is browsing this forum, maybe they chose not to see that?

What's the point to say it? I'm genuinely curious now, what are you trying to achieve?

I think people are trying to discourage this kind of posting. That may be hard to hear when you worked hard on the video, but if you have some insights and opinions on the plugin you would get a healthier discussion started here by typing a few sentences about it.

You’re also probably getting a slightly unfair blowback to the fact that most of these “YouTube driveby” posts aren’t real KVR members like you and they don’t stick around for discussion.

Do you realize we are in 2022 and that's how things work from at least 15 years now?

There’s a world beyond YouTube that hasn’t changed so much.

[Frankie.T]

I appreciate your reply, because you are bringing some value to an opinion, differently from what other people done before. But probably they are just capable to insult people without any costructive feedback, at least that's what they've done, and if this is the "forum mood" isn't better than kids that do stuff without any clue on youtube. So at the end they are the forum version of these youtube kids. Pratically they are what they dislike

Nobody has a gun to their head. They only “need” to do these things to get more clicks on YouTube.

It's the same in the real life, no one has a gun to do a job who don't like, but most people out there do exactly this. In this case is not about a wage, cause as i told i earn no money from yt, but about satisfaction to share

Which leads to the real issue here: this is a forum, the main form of communication is text and images. The text you posted tells us very little about the plugin, and was accompanied by an annoying image.

Exactly, this is a forum towarded to music production, and instead talking about that the talk was about youtube thumbnails, so my question now is, are you sure people are here because of music?
Cause doens't seem the talk and interest was going in that direction, but how much an image is crucial, and this is no sense for me

If I want to see gurning novices flick through presets without level-matching while declaring the latest product release “dope” and “awesome” without a semblance of meaningful context or comparison, then as you say Youtube is keen to direct me to that sort of thing. I don’t know how much of that description applies to your work, but I do know that you’ve adopted their style of presentation. And if somebody is browsing this forum, maybe they chose not to see that?

This happen when people judje a book from the cover, it's the same old story, the cover is bad so the book is bad.
But even more importantly, if something is useless for "you" doesn't mean the same for someone else.
I understand what you wrote. It's very distant to me the idea to change "your" mind, but it's important to understand that being mature means to respect someone without be harsh and urrespectful. If it's hard to understand that maybe some other people here can find useful to watch a review and ear how something sound before trying it, at least having the maturity to comment the plugin if it's about his interest, or just ignore it.

I think people are trying to discourage this kind of posting. That may be hard to hear when you worked hard on the video, but if you have some insights and opinions on the plugin you would get a healthier discussion started here by typing a few sentences about it.
You’re also probably getting a slightly unfair blowback to the fact that most of these “YouTube driveby” posts aren’t real KVR members like you and they don’t stick around for discussion.

I understand someone can go on forum just to spam content only, but this doesn't make everyone the same. This is discriminatory, our history is full of these mistakes

There’s a world beyond YouTube that hasn’t changed so much.

Sure, there's a world beyond everything, (i'm european) i saw a documentary about Hamish, they are against technology. The world is beautiful because everyone have a different point of view and different needing.
That's why i think tollerance and understand that not everyone share the same thoughts and needs is important, and should belong to any human over 18 years old.
So again maybe something useless for you is very useful for someone else, accept that if something can be useful for someone, no one is hurting you neither removing something you have or like.

Tollerance and understanding is important. I don't think people here who dislike thumbnails are used to go out to insult everyone who think differently from them.
But a keyboard seems to give that kind of freedom somehow, but this is the kind of behaviour that should be discuraged, cause in our worst history moments we killed people because of that, so at least let's try to learn a lesson to make everything better

[briefcasemanx]

Tested this out. It's good, but maybe it's too clean for me? I think on gearspace the developer said there's a new version where you can dial in the amount of harmonics imparted on the sound. I bet I'd be more in tune with that version but the demo I downloaded doesn't have that.

[Frankie.T]

Tested this out. It's good, but maybe it's too clean for me? I think on gearspace the developer said there's a new version where you can dial in the amount of harmonics imparted on the sound. I bet I'd be more in tune with that version but the demo I downloaded doesn't have that.

https://www.kiiveaudio.com/downloads v1.0.1 have a thd knob upper right
I already downloaded the newer version but still didn't tried.
The first version is very clean to me too, but isn't an issue. In my tests i found it very interesting on drums where i was able to give it more body without coloring to much. I've found xtressor more juicy about that if this is what you are looking for. But maybe with thd is possible to achieve more color here too

[Vortifex]

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[Bodhisan]

Every time this guy makes a thread half of the comments are about the video thumbnail. Don't hate the player, hate the game. I appreciate the time and effort gone into making the videos.

No kidding - and agreed. I like Frankie.T's videos - and his thumbnails. But more importantly, Frankie.T is a doer and an enthusiast who wants to share and contribute in music-making - at least he's trying to add to our knowledge, whether you like it or not.

[imrae]

Which leads to the real issue here: this is a forum, the main form of communication is text and images. The text you posted tells us very little about the plugin, and was accompanied by an annoying image.

Exactly, this is a forum towarded to music production, and instead talking about that the talk was about youtube thumbnails, so my question now is, are you sure people are here because of music?
Cause doens't seem the talk and interest was going in that direction, but how much an image is crucial, and this is no sense for me

Again, things would likely be different if the first post actually opens a text discussion. As you’ve spent some time with the plugin, perhaps you could share some insights such as:

What makes “Chandler Limiter”-style compression special? Is it especially clean or dirty? Are the time constants fast/slow compared to other kinds of compression? What kind of material do you personally find this style of compression useful for? Does it do anything that can’t be replicated by a versatile plugin such as DC8C or Pro-C?

[edlucciola]

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Tested this out. It's good, but maybe it's too clean for me? I think on gearspace the developer said there's a new version where you can dial in the amount of harmonics imparted on the sound. I bet I'd be more in tune with that version but the demo I downloaded doesn't have that.

Don't know how to comment from my dev account haha but yea I'm way prouder of the new version, if you wanna try it out just redownload from here and it should also reset your trial as well https://www.kiiveaudio.com/downloads (https://www.kiiveaudio.com/downloads)

[Frankie.T]

Which leads to the real issue here: this is a forum, the main form of communication is text and images. The text you posted tells us very little about the plugin, and was accompanied by an annoying image.

Exactly, this is a forum towarded to music production, and instead talking about that the talk was about youtube thumbnails, so my question now is, are you sure people are here because of music?
Cause doens't seem the talk and interest was going in that direction, but how much an image is crucial, and this is no sense for me

Again, things would likely be different if the first post actually opens a text discussion. As you’ve spent some time with the plugin, perhaps you could share some insights such as:

What makes “Chandler Limiter”-style compression special? Is it especially clean or dirty? Are the time constants fast/slow compared to other kinds of compression? What kind of material do you personally find this style of compression useful for? Does it do anything that can’t be replicated by a versatile plugin such as DC8C or Pro-C?

I made a video where i share my thoughts and audio tests where you can make your own idea. So it's even better, cause you don't need to trust me, you can actually ear it and decide by yourself!!!

If you don't like that kind of content and prefer to read, don't watch it, no one is with a gun on your head, just download the demo and feel free to do it by yourself.

And till seems you like text, feel free to do a written review, answering your own questions, or just ask it to someone who entered this discussion just to spread hate about youtube, instead bringing some positive and valuable informations, because seem you miss the elephand in the room, you have a lot of suggestions for me, but not even a word for these haters that "joined the chat" just for that.

Anywhay if the forum include not just the option to link a video, but automatically turn it into a full frame with the thubnails it mean video sharing it's part of the forum, like it or not.

This is the last reply from me about youtube/thumbnails, if people are not mature to understand different needs, and prefer to complain instead to bring values it's not my problem...
Don't people like a video, don't watch it, do people have the need to throw sh*t on what other people do? They need a psychologist not a reply from me

Do you like a written review in a post?

JUST DO IT

i'll be happy to read it

[perpetual3]

First of all, to address something you bring up in a later reply, I did not offend you or anyone. All I said was that YouTube suggests “influencers” use that exaggerated thumbnail pic, which I referred to as the cringe pic. And yes, when I see that pic I pass on the video. That kind of pic is dumb and juvenile and if your video does in fact have intelligent, helpful and well presented information, publishing that video with that pic does you and your “content” (whatever that is) a disservice. It dumbs down your work by function of your conformity to the algorithmically driven masses. I pass on those videos because I don’t want that dynamic in my life. I don’t want that juvenile presentation, and I reject its acceptance by rejecting those videos. There are plenty of “influencers” who don’t use that cringe thumbnail pic and I get substantially similar information from them. If enough people rejected videos with those thumbnails, then the use of those thumbnails will die out. But I get it, clicks and views are the only way you make money from your work, so you feel pressure to use whatever approach youtube says will get you more views. I’m not judging you personally for that. But I don’t have to accept that, and if you post a video with such a thumbnail someone like me expressing the fact that they refuse to view the video because of it should be seen as valuable feedback. You introduced the video in the thread and you’ve opened it up for criticism.

Now, I didn’t initially want to speak anymore on this subject, especially since in fact I was the one who was “attacked” by briefcasemax for the simple statement “when I see the cringe pic it’s a hard pass” but you framed my statement as being a personal attack but it ostensibly was not.

Is not my fault if people on youtube decide to watch videos with these kind of thumbnails. Believeme, i tried with more serious, but videos got totally ignored.
I make no money from my channel (is not monetized) it's just about sharing a passion with people and trying to give some help.
Prepare a video cost me a lot of time (and even money for the equipment), so i do what's better for the video to being viewed, the only reward i get is the satisfaction to do something useful for someone else

I dislike these kind of thumbs too, but i'm not the one who make the rules. If people prefer to click on videos with stupid faces i can do nothing. Even very big and popular youtubers need to do that. That's a rule.

I understand someone don't like it and decide to do not click the video just because of that. I do not agree, because you can miss some usefull info, but i understand the point.
What i feel more stupid than my face on the thumbnail, is to see people to have the need to say it even multiple time, and even to switch the discussion of the thread about that instead the plugin.

If i like something i click on it, if i don't like i do not complain about it, i just ignore.
What's the point to say it? I'm genuinely curious now, what are you trying to achieve? Do you realize we are in 2022 and that's how things work from at least 15 years now?

Don't watch my video if you don't want it, i don't care, i just like to be useful and to share something with people who share my interests, but please accept my suggestion: be more relaxed and try to respect what other people do, cause behind something you may dislike there is a lot of work, and since i hurt nobody here, i think to deserve some respect, just to being a human.

Thank You

[loungepanda]

Trust a "content creator" to make the whole thread about himself.

God, these people, man....

[jens]

Yes, exactly - going by his posts here the thumbnail absolutely steers us in the right direction and the hard pass is 100% warranted.

[kidslow]

I had to watch the video just to see what the fuss was all about. It's ok. Would I subscribe to his channel. Absolutely not. I appreciate the kid's enthusiasm and clearly he put thought and time into creating the video, and it takes balls to share any creation with the world and suffer the slings and arrows.

That said, Frankie.T should absolutely be paying attention to the feedback from the geezers here. They are 100% in the bullseye of the target audience for his video. If they are saying they won't watch it because of the cover, that is constructive.

I dislike these kind of thumbs too, but i'm not the one who make the rules. If people prefer to click on videos with stupid faces i can do nothing. Even very big and popular youtubers need to do that. That's a rule.

Dude, you make the videos you make the rules. If you want to call it a "convention" or a "rule of thumb" OK. As a creator, you make the rules for your creation. That's the only rule. Or just run with the herd and put stupid reaction shots on your video cover and look stupid. Your choice, but nobody else's rule. That's just silly. Also a bit of a fib to say you make no money on the videos. Just because they are not monetized today does not mean you are not working on building enough of a catalog and following where you can monetize your channel tomorrow. Google requires some leveling up before one can monetize. Seems to me that's on your agenda. If it wasn't you wouldn't care about what the algorithms tell you the cover should look like. You would do what felt aesthetically pleasing to you. That's what an artist does.

The actual content of your video is better than the cover and better than the discussion that has gone on here. At least you are showing some information from Plugin Doctor and running a variety of types of material through the effect, and you offer some personal conclusions. Too much knob fiddling and not enough explanation of what you are learning by doing so for my taste. My one other feedback would be use some low ambient music under the Plugin Doctor scene rather than silence. There is room for it and feels naked without it.

I'm not interested in the Kiive plugin and the video didn't sway me one way or another in that regard. My opinion, perhaps a smarter cover would have not derailed into discussion about yourself and the so-called rules of YouTube content creators. I don't see anyone being mean or shitting on Frankie. In their way, the old guys here are offering constructive criticism.

[BVT]

Very meh this one. With a quirky GUI and a very standard sound imo, nothing special. Tried it on EDM stuff, maybe it is for more acoustic stuff.

. . . You bring a great key point . . . ! . . .
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. . . So many times I try a great new plugin and think . . . "Wow, this is a very well made plugin for Synths and EDM" . . . !
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. . . Yet I have been working mostly in the Acoustic Realm . . .!
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. . . And this Kiive ADC1 is very Special and Nice on the Acoustic Drum tracks, that i am listening to right now, as I am typing . . .

. . . Yes . . . ! . . . my new Kiive ADC1, X Bus, K Strip, my Tube KC-1, and M5133, ect. will get Allaht Ove Use . . . ! . . .
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