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Serum, i like the UI and workflow but there is something I don't love about the filters, i always end changing it for Diva for more analog sounds.
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zzz00m wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:26 pm
MJACau wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:51 pm
Boy Wonder wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:54 am
MJACau wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:47 am Modo Drums and the high CPU usage, running a 5900x with 64mb of ram. Maybe I will love it again when I upgrade to Zen 4.
When I read reviews like these, it's the reason why I don't bother upgrading my laptop's 16GB RAM to 32 or 64. It doesn't matter.
On ram it just really depends what your doing, I'm even thinking of going 128gb it can be helpful for photo editing.
Once you have "enough" RAM (and/or cores) for your tasks, it's all about CPU speed.
I beg to differ, but you do you.
We all have different needs and budgets.
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zzz00m wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:26 pm Once you have "enough" RAM (and/or cores) for your tasks, it's all about CPU speed.
Well, either everything you need fits in your RAM, or not. If it already does, adding more RAM won't improve anything.
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MJACau wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:45 am
zzz00m wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:26 pm
MJACau wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:51 pm
Boy Wonder wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:54 am
MJACau wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:47 am Modo Drums and the high CPU usage, running a 5900x with 64mb of ram. Maybe I will love it again when I upgrade to Zen 4.
When I read reviews like these, it's the reason why I don't bother upgrading my laptop's 16GB RAM to 32 or 64. It doesn't matter.
On ram it just really depends what your doing, I'm even thinking of going 128gb it can be helpful for photo editing.
Once you have "enough" RAM (and/or cores) for your tasks, it's all about CPU speed.
I beg to differ, but you do you.
We all have different needs and budgets.
My point was that more RAM will not make your computer any faster, if you already have enough RAM to fit everything that's running. At that point only a faster CPU can make your computer process a virtual instrument faster.
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DJ Warmonger wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:10 am
zzz00m wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:26 pm Once you have "enough" RAM (and/or cores) for your tasks, it's all about CPU speed.
Well, either everything you need fits in your RAM, or not. If it already does, adding more RAM won't improve anything.
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Personally, I really *want* to like:

- modular synths: I get their power, and the infinite possibilities, but they are extremely tedious to use, in any form (hardware or software);
- Diva: for some reason, I just don't... vibe with it, it has nice sounds and it certainly is a good synth, but I find it uninspiring;
- big fat analog emulation plugins, there is so much stuff going on in the GUI (and all of it skeuomorphic) that it ends up being a bit of a headache to use them;

That said, I am a bit of an outlier, in the fact that I've grown up using free software synths because that's all I could afford, and I actually cut my teeth on this synth here and it's still one of my favourite, even though it has its annoying bugs and quirks (aggressive denormalisation, for starters - even though they sort of fixed it at a certain point) and it sounds a bit like an extremely powerful '90s rompler. Its GUI is commonly considered to be ghastly but I find it extremely logical for a software synth and I can find my way around it even years after (I don't play synths much anymore). These days, I generally either fire up my Polivoks (which is otherwise gathering dust), I use something by Full Bucket or whatever (Deputy is great for string machine stuff, and some of his other synths are not bad at all), some Juno emulation (TAL's emulation is great, works well), use ZynAddSubFX or sometimes Surge (which is a bit too much of an everything-and-the-kitchen-sink synth, but it has its merits). I also love SQ8L (even though it's 32-bit only). Blamsoft's VK-1 Viking synth is also a great virtual analog emulation with a really nice filter.

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BONES wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:57 pm I have tried both and dismissed them. Not my kind of things at all, for various reasons.
Just give it a second chance. It does the trick sometimes. I was dismissing SurgeXT too. Then tried all those OSC modifiers (I'm not sure how many there in total, 40-60?) and found out that it's just an ultimate tool for very unique sounds and combinations. Cool for electronic music. I have even noticed, that I come back to Surge more often than to other synths even for quite ordinary sounds. At the first, the GUI looks strange. But then I realized, that everything is very logical and easy to access.

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zzz00m wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:55 pm
MJACau wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:45 am
zzz00m wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:26 pm
MJACau wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:51 pm
Boy Wonder wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:54 am
MJACau wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:47 am Modo Drums and the high CPU usage, running a 5900x with 64mb of ram. Maybe I will love it again when I upgrade to Zen 4.
When I read reviews like these, it's the reason why I don't bother upgrading my laptop's 16GB RAM to 32 or 64. It doesn't matter.
On ram it just really depends what your doing, I'm even thinking of going 128gb it can be helpful for photo editing.
Once you have "enough" RAM (and/or cores) for your tasks, it's all about CPU speed.
I beg to differ, but you do you.
We all have different needs and budgets.
My point was that more RAM will not make your computer any faster, if you already have enough RAM to fit everything that's running. At that point only a faster CPU can make your computer process a virtual instrument faster.
Ram makes my multi tasking easier, so in a effect I work faster. I can keep those 100 chrome tabs open while juggling DAWs on both screens. :wink:
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All I want is a synth that makes the glorious sounds of the Arp Soloist Pro.
Why I don't love the rest.

Banks on The Lamb album,those eerie Arp Sounds give me goosebumps!

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MJACau wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:51 pm Ram makes my multi tasking easier, so in a effect I work faster. I can keep those 100 chrome tabs open while juggling DAWs on both screens. :wink:
Sure! That's what RAM does for everyone.

But having more RAM than you need won't make it work any faster. Having less will definitely slow you down. The trick is installing a bit more than you think you will need at the highest level of use. Unless money is no object, then max it out!
Windows 10 and too many plugins

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zzz00m wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:29 pm
MJACau wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:51 pm Ram makes my multi tasking easier, so in a effect I work faster. I can keep those 100 chrome tabs open while juggling DAWs on both screens. :wink:
But having more RAM than you need won't make it work any faster.
It depends on the Ram, ram speed rating and infinity fabric, with regards to sustained boost clock with adequate cooling.
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MJACau wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:51 pm Ram makes my multi tasking easier, so in a effect I work faster. I can keep those 100 chrome tabs open while juggling DAWs on both screens. :wink:
Chrome is like the Blob of programs. It just eats and eats RAM and grows bigger and bigger. I suggest we freeze it with fire extinguishers and airlift it to the Antarctic before it's too late!

If you're working in your bigass program (DAW, video, graphics, etc.) you really shouldn't have 20 other distractions open at the same time. The vast majority of softwares these days use far more resources than they really need to because programmers have gotten lazy. It's easier to link in that 20mb library to do that one thing than to write it yourself...
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? :(

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Tone2 synths. Dislike the sound of most of them and find the UI to be very dated looking in a way that I don't personally find charming.

Pigments. I love the workflow, Arturia is amazing at UI and are my favorite in the game, but the CPU usage of it really bothered me and I wasn't all crazy into its sound (like some others have said here) so I ended up just recently replacing this one altogether with something else.
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If you're working in your bigass program (DAW, video, graphics, etc.) you really shouldn't have 20 other distractions open at the same time.
shouldn't?!
You think like an engineer not like and artist, art is messy.
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MJACau wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:35 pm
If you're working in your bigass program (DAW, video, graphics, etc.) you really shouldn't have 20 other distractions open at the same time.
shouldn't?!
You think like an engineer not like and artist, art is messy.
This is disingenuous, if not outright silly. Rarely do artists accomplish anything without discipline and some sort of technical thinking.

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