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SmoothMountain SmoothMountain https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=412852
- KVRer
- 27 posts since 31 Jan, 2018
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- KVRian
- 576 posts since 30 Jan, 2021
I'm trying to wrap my head around what "non-destructive polyphonic modulation" means and what it refers to. VSTi's only have synths with destructive monophonic modulation? If so, what's that?
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- KVRAF
- 23104 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
VSTs only have automation - the automation envelope takes over control over the parameter. Modulation is an offset from the value of the parameter and it doesn't take over control over the parameter. Modulation is an additional thing on top of manual parameter control and host automation. Just like LFOs and envelopes in a synth.
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- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 13 May, 2004
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11549 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
As Evil Dragon said, when you automate a knob in a VSTi, you'll see the knob move. Depending on your host, the knob may remain unchanged, while the sound is being impacted behind the scenes just like an LFO. This allows you to fine tune and move the knob rather than taking it over.Boy Wonder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:54 pm I'm trying to wrap my head around what "non-destructive polyphonic modulation" means and what it refers to. VSTi's only have synths with destructive monophonic modulation? If so, what's that?
As far as I know, only Bitwig supports that at the moment. Reaper doesn't have Polyphonic Modulation or Non-Destructive Modulation yet.
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- KVRian
- 1350 posts since 31 Mar, 2014
Nice recap and good insights into some of the upcoming CLAP developments:
https://cleveraudio.org/news/half-a-year-in/
https://cleveraudio.org/news/half-a-year-in/
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- KVRAF
- 6309 posts since 9 Dec, 2008 from Berlin
Yeah, especially that Epic adopted CLAP for Unreal is da bomb!
Totally new venues for plugin developers ahead...
Cheers,
Tom
Totally new venues for plugin developers ahead...
Cheers,
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 4900 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Very cool! I'm carefully watching to see when CLAP passes LV2. I have no doubt it will, but I'm watching to know when it will happen. 
For those curious, there is no actual recent count, but it is believed that there are just over 1000 LV2 plugins (almost entirely on Linux). That means that CLAP is already 10% of the way there in just six month's time.
For those curious, there is no actual recent count, but it is believed that there are just over 1000 LV2 plugins (almost entirely on Linux). That means that CLAP is already 10% of the way there in just six month's time.
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- KVRist
- 190 posts since 3 Jan, 2021
Some Linux/Libre Audio/LV2 Devs are now leading the way in porting/enabling CLAP buildsaudiojunkie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:49 pmThat means that CLAP is already 10% of the way there in just six month's time.
For me it's not just about quantity though, I'd love to see CLAP adopt some of the more advanced LV2 features that are not there yet.
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- KVRAF
- 4900 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Agreed. But, Considering how fast the adoption rate is moving,it’s a beautiful thing, isn’t it? 
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11549 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
What are some examples of these more advanced LV2 features? Very curious.DRMR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:34 pmSome Linux/Libre Audio/LV2 Devs are now leading the way in porting/enabling CLAP buildsaudiojunkie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:49 pmThat means that CLAP is already 10% of the way there in just six month's time.
For me it's not just about quantity though, I'd love to see CLAP adopt some of the more advanced LV2 features that are not there yet.
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- KVRist
- 190 posts since 3 Jan, 2021
Atom ports, CV-ports (I know its in the works for CLAP, but still very preliminary and undefined there), alternative UI options (some companies have made their own UI extensions, like MOD with `modgui` ).Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:13 am What are some examples of these more advanced LV2 features? Very curious.
There's probably more, but I don't know enough of the details to explain it proper
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- KVRAF
- 25557 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
That is a huge market for CLAP...ThomasHelzle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:14 pm Yeah, especially that Epic adopted CLAP for Unreal is da bomb!
Totally new venues for plugin developers ahead...
Cheers,
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 9148 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
A mac/win CLAP frequency shifter plugin:
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/dl.php? ... _0_macclap
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/dl.php? ... _0_winclap
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/dl.php? ... _0_macclap
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/dl.php? ... _0_winclap
