Vital - Released

[audiojunkie]

not gonna lie here, vital sounds a bit harsh and its in the waveforms, so regardless of what you do to the sound, theres always a bit of sharpness. i dont think its aliasing but it seems just slightly annoying. and im talking just purely comparing a saw wave to another saw wave. the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurts my ears in vital.

That’s character! You just don’t like the particular character.

[liquidsound]

PS: will Vital ever go on sale?

you mean, when they are going to offer you money to get it?

As I am the ultimate professional I more thought of the Pro version

The Pro version costs like Serum if it would go on sale.
So, Vital is on a constant sale price

No doubt about that!
But: shall I get Vital Pro if I already have Serum, Mssive X and Hive?
I'm tempted, but my superego forbids further investments...

no, of course not. vital is just a free serum, with worse sound. sorry to the vital fanboys, just keeping it a buck.

I have both of course and I reach for serum first, since I’ve been using it for very long time, but your “worse” sound statement is so far off that it’s actually meaningless.
“Worse” actually.

[astralprojection]

I have both of course and I reach for serum first, since I’ve been using it for very long time, but your “worse” sound statement is so far off that it’s actually meaningless.
“Worse” actually.

okay i guess i will tell my ears that my thoughts are meaningless.

not gonna lie here, vital sounds a bit harsh and its in the waveforms, so regardless of what you do to the sound, theres always a bit of sharpness. i dont think its aliasing but it seems just slightly annoying. and im talking just purely comparing a saw wave to another saw wave. the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurts my ears in vital.

That’s character! You just don’t like the particular character.

ok? character, sound, whatever you wanna call it

[martinjuenke]

PS: will Vital ever go on sale?

you mean, when they are going to offer you money to get it?

As I am the ultimate professional I more thought of the Pro version

The Pro version costs like Serum if it would go on sale.
So, Vital is on a constant sale price

No doubt about that!
But: shall I get Vital Pro if I already have Serum, Mssive X and Hive?
I'm tempted, but my superego forbids further investments...

no, of course not. vital is just a free serum, with worse sound. sorry to the vital fanboys, just keeping it a buck.

Thanks

[liquidsound]

I have both of course and I reach for serum first, since I’ve been using it for very long time, but your “worse” sound statement is so far off that it’s actually meaningless.
“Worse” actually.

okay i guess i will tell my ears that my thoughts are meaningless.

No at all. Just be aware that those are your personal thoughts and Serum sounds great for sure.
Better? I don’t know, but Vital gets me to a different soundscape than Serum. Better? I don’t know….

[astralprojection]

I have both of course and I reach for serum first, since I’ve been using it for very long time, but your “worse” sound statement is so far off that it’s actually meaningless.
“Worse” actually.

okay i guess i will tell my ears that my thoughts are meaningless.

No at all. Just be aware that those are your personal thoughts and Serum sounds great for sure.
Better? I don’t know, but Vital gets me to a different soundscape than Serum. Better? I don’t know….

im inclined to call YOUR comments meaningless tbh. i have my opinion you have yours, yet you felt you had to "attack" mine. THAT seems meaningless.

[zzz00m]

not gonna lie here, vital sounds a bit harsh and its in the waveforms, so regardless of what you do to the sound, theres always a bit of sharpness. i dont think its aliasing but it seems just slightly annoying. and im talking just purely comparing a saw wave to another saw wave. the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurts my ears in vital.

Did you try the LPF filter?

thats a silly question tbh, what is your point? yes i tried it obviosly, i spent probably 20 hours with vital.

I only questioned it because you mentioned the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurting your ears. But after re-reading what you said, it was in comparison to another saw wave. To what source, another saw in Vital or to another synth?

[astralprojection]

I only questioned it because you mentioned the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurting your ears. But after re-reading what you said, it was in comparison to another saw wave. To what source, another saw in Vital or to another synth?

so the remedy in your opinion; is to use a LPF to get rid of what is annyoing, instead of picking a synth that is NOT annoying? or why did you ask if ive used the LPF?
to what source... any other synth

and i can feel the vital fanboyism getting closer, and i never wanted to start a debate just post my opinion but that seems too much for you guys so im out - peace

[liquidsound]

i have my opinion you have yours

Perfect.

[Held]

I thought Vital sounded bad without a high-pass filter too until I bought a new audio interface...

The difference between Vital and most other synths is that Vital produces sound up until Nyquist whereas most other synths cut the signal at 20khz, regardless of the sample rate. I had a cheap interface that supports 48kHz, but produces some form of aliasing with signals over 20kHz which made vital sound worse than other synths.

With the new interface, Vital sounds great, even if it goes over 20kHz.

[astralprojection]

I thought Vital sounded bad without a high-pass filter too until I bought a new audio interface...

The difference between Vital and most other synths is that Vital produces sound up until Nyquist whereas most other synths cut the signal at 20khz, regardless of the sample rate. I had a cheap interface that supports 48kHz, but produces some form of aliasing with signals over 20kHz which made vital sound worse than other synths.

With the new interface, Vital sounds great, even if it goes over 20kHz.

thats ridiculous. what synth cuts its frequency at 20khz? name me a few since you said "most other synths". or just one. ill go into the daw right now on 192khz, and prove you wrong.

edit: matter of fact here is retrologue playing a saw wave (C3)
goes right up to the max that pro-q3 can handle which is about 25khz (and presumably it goes way higher than that)

[zzz00m]

I only questioned it because you mentioned the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurting your ears. But after re-reading what you said, it was in comparison to another saw wave. To what source, another saw in Vital or to another synth?

so the remedy in your opinion; is to use a LPF to get rid of what is annyoing, instead of picking a synth that is NOT annoying? or why did you ask if ive used the LPF?
to what source... any other synth

and i can feel the vital fanboyism getting closer, and i never wanted to start a debate just post my opinion but that seems too much for you guys so im out - peace

I wasn't criticizing, I was just asking a question and trying to understand.

I am far from a Vital fanboy, as it's not my favorite out of the 100+ other synths that I have. But it's good and I like it. I just adjust the filters on ANY synth until I get a pleasing sound...

But based on your rude reaction it is apparent that you came here just for drama. So yeah, done here as well!

[Psuper]

I only questioned it because you mentioned the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurting your ears. But after re-reading what you said, it was in comparison to another saw wave. To what source, another saw in Vital or to another synth?

so the remedy in your opinion; is to use a LPF to get rid of what is annyoing, instead of picking a synth that is NOT annoying? or why did you ask if ive used the LPF?
to what source... any other synth

and i can feel the vital fanboyism getting closer, and i never wanted to start a debate just post my opinion but that seems too much for you guys so im out - peace

I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to question your blanket statement that "Vital" in general has harmonics that you feel sounds harsh and hurts your ears, but then you specify a Saw Wave specifically. The only other claim you've made was that Vital was a free and worse sounding Serum.

So it's a fairly odd negative claim, and not helpful as a criticism. Maybe post the two SAW waves -- the 'harsh' one you don't like and the one you're comparing it to.

People who make those types of statements generally double down on the tech they've already dumped time, money, and effort into and find reasons to not like the grass on the other side. Not saying that's what you did, but it certainly gives that vibe.

[astralprojection]

I only questioned it because you mentioned the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurting your ears. But after re-reading what you said, it was in comparison to another saw wave. To what source, another saw in Vital or to another synth?

so the remedy in your opinion; is to use a LPF to get rid of what is annyoing, instead of picking a synth that is NOT annoying? or why did you ask if ive used the LPF?
to what source... any other synth

and i can feel the vital fanboyism getting closer, and i never wanted to start a debate just post my opinion but that seems too much for you guys so im out - peace

I wasn't criticizing, I was just asking a question and trying to understand.

I am far from a Vital fanboy, as it's not my favorite out of the 100+ other synths that I have. But it's good and I like it. I just adjust the filters on ANY synth until I get a pleasing sound...

But based on your rude reaction it is apparent that you came here just for drama. So yeah, done here as well!

oh so if someone is rude he is wrong? pff

[astralprojection]

I only questioned it because you mentioned the upper harmonics of the saw wave hurting your ears. But after re-reading what you said, it was in comparison to another saw wave. To what source, another saw in Vital or to another synth?

so the remedy in your opinion; is to use a LPF to get rid of what is annyoing, instead of picking a synth that is NOT annoying? or why did you ask if ive used the LPF?
to what source... any other synth

and i can feel the vital fanboyism getting closer, and i never wanted to start a debate just post my opinion but that seems too much for you guys so im out - peace

I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to question your blanket statement that "Vital" in general has harmonics that you feel sounds harsh and hurts your ears, but then you specify a Saw Wave specifically. The only other claim you've made was that Vital was a free and worse sounding Serum.

So it's a fairly odd negative claim, and not helpful as a criticism. Maybe post the two SAW waves -- the 'harsh' one you don't like and the one you're comparing it to.

People who make those types of statements generally double down on the tech they've already dumped time, money, and effort into and find reasons to not like the grass on the other side. Not saying that's what you did, but it certainly gives that vibe.

it is my opinion. cant i have mine in peace and you have yours in peace? did i comment on other peoples opinion? no, i stated mine then had to reply to a bunch of attacks made on mine.