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sqigls
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5132 posts since 25 Dec, 2004

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:56 pm

jamcat wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:41 pm All I'm missing are some plugins that don't seem to be in development anymore:

Virtual Sound Stage
PG-8X
Jamstix
ezplayer

And of those, the only one I really care about is Virtual Sound Stage.

yeah ezPlayer is discontinued i think?


i'm waiting on Kush, and Cytomic
i can't really move to native full-time without either :(

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jamcat
KVRAF
3137 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:04 pm

Yes, Toontrack discontinued ezplayer back in November 2019.

I can use Virtual Sound Stage in native Studio One by loading the AU version, which Rosetta2 bridges. But the question is: for how long?

Virtual Sound Stage uses negligible CPU, so I'm not too concerned about it not being native, unlike T-RackS Tape Machines. My CPU has dropped from 94% usage running Studio One in Rosetta2 on a full project with Tape Machine 80 on every channel to 77% usage running Studio One native.
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traveller1969
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7 posts since 11 Aug, 2022

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:30 pm

Sonsig Rev A reverb now M1 Native.

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Tronam
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1983 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:30 pm

Aww, seeing PG-8X makes me a little sad, not unlike SQ8L.

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jamcat
KVRAF
3137 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:50 pm

I should point out that you can also use ezplayer and PG-8X in native Apple Silicon Studio One by using the AU versions.

PG-8X:
You need to download the discontinued PG-8X AU beta

and delete com.apple.audiounits.sandboxed.cache from Macintosh HD > Users > [username] > Library > Caches > AudioUnitCache to get it to show up. (You may need to reboot after to get the cache to rebuild.)

ezplayer:
You will need to first create an instance of EZplayer in Studio One, then create a new External Device in Studio One > Preferences... and set it to receive from EZplayer to send MIDI from it to another plugin. Once you've created an EZplayer external device, you can select it as an MIDI input for another plugin just as you would a MIDI controller.


These principles will probably work in other DAWs and with other plugins as well.
Last edited by jamcat on Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:58 pm, edited 5 times in total.
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Tronam
KVRAF
1983 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:59 pm

I really wish developers without any intention of future development would open source their code, or at least pass it along to a trusted active developer to keep it alive.

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sqigls
KVRAF
5132 posts since 25 Dec, 2004

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:37 pm

damn, I just realised i can't go silicon native if i wanna use my MIDI plugins.
FeelYourSound stuff mostly. That's a ball breaker.

btfnk
KVRist
102 posts since 8 Jan, 2009 from Los Angeles

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:07 pm

jamcat wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:50 pm You need to download the discontinued PG-8X AU beta
Where do I find this?

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jamcat
KVRAF
3137 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:26 pm

btfnk wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:07 pm
jamcat wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:50 pm You need to download the discontinued PG-8X AU beta
Where do I find this?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e5oop1vf8vpl ... eezxa?dl=0
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eagle007
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21 posts since 16 Mar, 2022

Post Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:02 pm

jamcat wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:41 pm All I'm missing are some plugins that don't seem to be in development anymore:

Virtual Sound Stage
PG-8X
Jamstix
ezplayer

And of those, the only one I really care about is Virtual Sound Stage.
It's getting better and better, but there's still others missing:

- Lexicon PCM Bundle
- Relab VSR S24 (will be updated to the 6000 verb)
- Garritan CFX Concert Grand (don't think this will ever come, and the ARIA player is terrible)
- HALion 6 (Sonic SE is native now, so I can use the sounds if needed)
- UJAM (Amber, Silk and Sparkle)
- Battery 4 (but since we just got Massive back, I have good hope this will follow shortly)
- VSL Synchron Piano (had it demo'd but skipped on it as it clicks and pops like hell in Rosetta 2)

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jamcat
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3137 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:11 pm

I wouldn’t count on PCM Bundle.
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asstudioton
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111 posts since 14 Sep, 2021 from Belgrade

Post Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:22 pm

Lexicon PCM reverbs M1 native are coming in 2023
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dix
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156 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from san francisco

Post Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:22 pm

Audioease's Snapper and Barbabatch are M1 compatible.

https://www.audioease.com/barbabatch
https://www.audioease.com/snapper/
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aMUSEd
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34190 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:36 pm

eagle007 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:02 pm
jamcat wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:41 pm All I'm missing are some plugins that don't seem to be in development anymore:

Virtual Sound Stage
PG-8X
Jamstix
ezplayer

And of those, the only one I really care about is Virtual Sound Stage.
It's getting better and better, but there's still others missing:

- Lexicon PCM Bundle
- Relab VSR S24 (will be updated to the 6000 verb)
- Garritan CFX Concert Grand (don't think this will ever come, and the ARIA player is terrible)
- HALion 6 (Sonic SE is native now, so I can use the sounds if needed)
- UJAM (Amber, Silk and Sparkle)
- Battery 4 (but since we just got Massive back, I have good hope this will follow shortly)
- VSL Synchron Piano (had it demo'd but skipped on it as it clicks and pops like hell in Rosetta 2)
Battery 4 is coming in January 2023 along with Reaktor 6

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machinesworking
KVRAF
4962 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Post Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:25 pm

Yeah there are still major omissions here ion terms of native support.

All VSL products including VEP are not silicon native.

Reason Studios and Pro Tools still not native.

PSP are about halfway there, NI are finally plugging along as well.

Audio Ease only have Snapper and Barbera Batch as native. Probably the new folly oriented room verbs as well.

Then there's all the halfway dead products like Air, Nomad Factory, Ohm etc.

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