SynthMaster 2 / SynthMaster 2 Player v2.9.17 update

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muswellhillbilly wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:19 pm
v2.9.16 still brings Cubase into overload. What changed from 2.9.14 to 2.9.15? This is a serious issue. Anyone uses Synthmaster 2 v2.9.15/16 with Cubase Pro 12 Win10?

Thx
I am going to investigate this with Cubase. Does it also happen on MacOS ?
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kv331 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:46 am
zzz00m wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:31 am The web page says "M1 Compatible" so I would be skeptical of native support...
Why this assumption ?????? If we say "M1 compatible" we FULLY support it, not via Rosetta 2.

FYI, our codebase already supported ARM processors since we had to compile for ARM processors on iOS.
Thanks - I think it needs to be stated more clearly then. Many developers use the term 'compatible' rather than 'native' to say it works on M1 but using Rosetta 2. Also I always check this website to see if something is native and Synthmaster isn't listed

https://asaudio.tech/software/cat-2/

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ElVincente wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:02 am
zzz00m wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:43 pm
ElVincente wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:19 pm Does anyone can use this with mpe ? Can't make it work with my linnstrument. Wrote to support but got no answer...
From the SynthMaster 2.9 user manual (Refers to the Settings menu):

MIDI Input Channel

Each SynthMaster instance has its own MIDI Input Channel setting. This parameter determines how
SynthMaster handles multi-channel MIDI messages. It can take the following values:

Channel 1-16: If MIDI Input Channel is set to a specific channel, SynthMaster processes MIDI
data only from that channel.
Omni: In Omni mode, SynthMaster disregards the MIDI channel by setting the channel number to 1 for incoming MIDI messages. Mono presets might not behave correctly in this mode if receiving multi-channel MIDI messages.
MPE: In MPE mode, SynthMaster can receive&process multi-channel MIDI messages and Channel 1 becomes the global channel as per the MPE Standard. This mode is used with MPE compatible MIDI controllers such as ROLI Seaboard.
Multi: In Multi mode, SynthMaster can receive and process multi-channel MIDI messages. Thismode is used with MIDI Guitars.
Thanks for answering but it doesn't work when set to mpe either. Is it working for you ?
I don't have an MPE controller. I only read the manual. Perhaps KV331 can assist you?
Windows 10 and too many plugins

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kv331 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:46 am
zzz00m wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:31 am The web page says "M1 Compatible" so I would be skeptical of native support...
Why this assumption ?????? If we say "M1 compatible" we FULLY support it, not via Rosetta 2.

FYI, our codebase already supported ARM processors since we had to compile for ARM processors on iOS.
Because it was not clearly stated as "native". Thanks for confirming it!
Windows 10 and too many plugins

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Tried support, but no answer. So Am I the only one to tried to use mpe with synthmaster ?

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kv331 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:47 am
muswellhillbilly wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:19 pm
v2.9.16 still brings Cubase into overload. What changed from 2.9.14 to 2.9.15? This is a serious issue. Anyone uses Synthmaster 2 v2.9.15/16 with Cubase Pro 12 Win10?

Thx
I am going to investigate this with Cubase. Does it also happen on MacOS ?
I don't use MacOS - I can't tell :neutral:
Cubase Pro 15 - WIN11 - Soniccore XITE-1

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aMUSEd wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:59 am Also I always check this website to see if something is native and Synthmaster isn't listed

https://asaudio.tech/software/cat-2/
Either you didn't check the site properly, or it got updated today:
https://asaudio.tech/developer/54

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Yes my bad I was looking under Synthmaster not KV331

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ElVincente wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:53 pm Tried support, but no answer. So Am I the only one to tried to use mpe with synthmaster ?
Our customer support hours are M-F 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM (GMT+3). Gercek should get back to you this afternoon.

There are 2 settings for MIDI channel: One at preset level, one at global level. If the global midi channel is "preset" preset setting is applied, otherwise the global setting (this is true for all global parameters). Did you change the MIDI channel globally or for the selected preset? Did you change it to "MPE" ? and did you set the global pitch bend range to 48 ?

Thanks

Bulent
Works at KV331 Audio
SynthMaster voted #1 in MusicRadar's "Best Synth of 2019" poll
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kv331 wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:39 am
ElVincente wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:53 pm Tried support, but no answer. So Am I the only one to tried to use mpe with synthmaster ?
Our customer support hours are M-F 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM (GMT+3). Gercek should get back to you this afternoon.

There are 2 settings for MIDI channel: One at preset level, one at global level. If the global midi channel is "preset" preset setting is applied, otherwise the global setting (this is true for all global parameters). Did you change the MIDI channel globally or for the selected preset? Did you change it to "MPE" ? and did you set the global pitch bend range to 48 ?

Thanks

Bulent
Thanks for the answer Bulent, sadely I did tried with both preset and global midi channel set to mpe and pith bend range to 48 too, and it still doesn't work. No reaction on pitch bend, aftertouch or mpe timbre tweaking with my linnstrument...

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kv331 wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:39 am
ElVincente wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:53 pm Tried support, but no answer. So Am I the only one to tried to use mpe with synthmaster ?
Our customer support hours are M-F 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM (GMT+3). Gercek should get back to you this afternoon.

There are 2 settings for MIDI channel: One at preset level, one at global level. If the global midi channel is "preset" preset setting is applied, otherwise the global setting (this is true for all global parameters). Did you change the MIDI channel globally or for the selected preset? Did you change it to "MPE" ? and did you set the global pitch bend range to 48 ?

Thanks

Bulent
I can confirm, MPE does not work with both settings. I am on Monterey and tested the VST3 in Bitwig…

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Please test MPE with the VST2 / AU versions. VST3 has a lot of issues with MIDI.
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SynthMaster voted #1 in MusicRadar's "Best Synth of 2019" poll
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That seems ok. I deleted the VST3 versions…
Will you change your code base to CLAP in the future? Then you could use the CLAP to VST3 wrapper and simply forget about Midi problems in VST3… And I could load the CLAP in Bitwig and go crazy with all those per voice modulations…

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Ah thanks!!! I'll test vst2 Asap.

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Kv331
Do you plan to add a tooltips for the Synthmaster for controls? I saw in the skin files empty fields "Tooltips", only this will not work.

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