When is the New Version of Waveform coming out?

[tmaworks]

Curious when the next version's coming out...

Any word??

[jabe]

The norm is for it to appear at the NAMM show in the USA in late January, with videos appearing. It's typically February to April when it goes on sale.

[tmaworks]

The norm is for it to appear at the NAMM show in the USA in late January, with videos appearing. It's typically February to April when it goes on sale.

Thank, man!!

Curious what types of improvements they make...

[Watchful]

I really don't think we got our money's worth with v12. I am not confident I would consider upgrading to v13.

[nowgad]

I really don't think we got our money's worth with v12. I am not confident I would consider upgrading to v13.

don't be fooled by yourself everyone who spends a lot of time with Waveform, does not give up this daw despite all the bugs and errors, he will continue to spend time in it, with hope: well, now, just a little more and everything will be fixed))

[dysjoint]

Yup, I will upgrade regardless based on the eternal hope that it will one day be perfect and just to support the company so they can continue long into the future.

With 12 I upgraded straight away, before some discount for existing owners was announced. Oh well, bad luck....... And then tracktion refunded the difference to my bank account, without me saying or doing anything. I thought that was pretty good.

[tmaworks]

I really don't think we got our money's worth with v12. I am not confident I would consider upgrading to v13.

Oh, I would NEVER pay for Waveform considering all the inadequacies of the free version. They're not there, yet. They're not at the point where they can take my money. Basically, for me, Waveform is a glorified audio editor -Not meant for serious tracking (large sessions) or mixing. Sure, the potentials' there, but the brass tacks just aren't yet...

Hoping they do something soon...

[UnionS8]

I really don't think we got our money's worth with v12. I am not confident I would consider upgrading to v13.

Oh, I would NEVER pay for Waveform considering all the inadequacies of the free version. They're not there, yet. They're not at the point where they can take my money. Basically, for me, Waveform is a glorified audio editor -Not meant for serious tracking (large sessions) or mixing. Sure, the potentials' there, but the brass tacks just aren't yet...

Hoping they do something soon...

Lately I realized it's quite OK for tracking, but still not for serious mixing. I wouldn't call it 'a glorified audio editor' for sure. In fact, I find it the best for me considering the tracking of all DAWs I know. Routing, controlling, and freezing (almost) is unparalleled among the other DAWs.

[tmaworks]

I really don't think we got our money's worth with v12. I am not confident I would consider upgrading to v13.

Oh, I would NEVER pay for Waveform considering all the inadequacies of the free version. They're not there, yet. They're not at the point where they can take my money. Basically, for me, Waveform is a glorified audio editor -Not meant for serious tracking (large sessions) or mixing. Sure, the potentials' there, but the brass tacks just aren't yet...

Hoping they do something soon...

Lately I realized it's quite OK for tracking, but still not for serious mixing. I wouldn't call it 'a glorified audio editor' for sure. In fact, I find it the best for me considering the tracking of all DAWs I know. Routing, controlling, and freezing (almost) is unparalleled among the other DAWs.

What do you mean by "freezing"?

Also, how many tracks are you doing at once during tracking? Just one or two, or are we talking 10 plus mics, here?

I should clarify, too - Should've said FOR ME, Waveform is basically a glorified audio editor at this point in time...

[pough]

What do you mean by "freezing"?

A frozen track is temporarily rendered to audio, freeing up resources. You can freeze an entire track or put in a "freeze point" that will, for example, freeze everything prior to the final volume plugin so that you can change the volume if you need to but everything before that point is simple audio.

The primary difference between freezing and rendering is that freezing is not final and can be easily undone at any time.

[tmaworks]

What do you mean by "freezing"?

A frozen track is temporarily rendered to audio, freeing up resources. You can freeze an entire track or put in a "freeze point" that will, for example, freeze everything prior to the final volume plugin so that you can change the volume if you need to but everything before that point is simple audio.

The primary difference between freezing and rendering is that freezing is not final and can be easily undone at any time.

Hmm... That actually seems really useful...

[UnionS8]

I really don't think we got our money's worth with v12. I am not confident I would consider upgrading to v13.

Oh, I would NEVER pay for Waveform considering all the inadequacies of the free version. They're not there, yet. They're not at the point where they can take my money. Basically, for me, Waveform is a glorified audio editor -Not meant for serious tracking (large sessions) or mixing. Sure, the potentials' there, but the brass tacks just aren't yet...

Hoping they do something soon...

Lately I realized it's quite OK for tracking, but still not for serious mixing. I wouldn't call it 'a glorified audio editor' for sure. In fact, I find it the best for me considering the tracking of all DAWs I know. Routing, controlling, and freezing (almost) is unparalleled among the other DAWs.

What do you mean by "freezing"?

Also, how many tracks are you doing at once during tracking? Just one or two, or are we talking 10 plus mics, here?

I should clarify, too - Should've said FOR ME, Waveform is basically a glorified audio editor at this point in time...

I'm not doing more than one track at once. I'm not an octopus But yes, we are talking 10+ tracks in the Project. I also don't use mics, I use Waveform as an 'advanced' sequencer. I do everything from MIDI to the final mix. I need ONE DAW to do all the tasks from the start to the finish. I don't want to use one DAW for tracking and another for mixing and so on. I'm used to change MIDI, synths, effects even during the mixing process when they're not OK. I don't want to switch back to the first DAW, make changes, render the Track, switch to the second DAW, update the new track, adjust it, ... That's why I mentioned the freezing. I can free some resources, but be able to make the edit in matter of seconds. This is also the reason I wouldn't call Waveform an audio editor. Sure, there are few drawbacks, but I think the Waveform is ALMOST THERE

[fde101]

If you are recording an entire band, either live or in a studio, you don't need to be an octopus to use even more than 10 mics at a time. You could easily use 8+ mics on a drum set alone, then add guitars, vocals, etc.

Freezing tracks is a common feature that *many* DAWs offer in some form or another, though the "freeze point" feature of Waveform is more flexible than what most others offer. Logic, Cubase, Digital Performer and Ableton Live are a few other examples of DAWs which have this feature, though they typically force you to freeze *everything* on the track rather than being able to selectively freeze a subset of the plugins (everything up to the freeze point) as you can in Waveform. FL Studio, Bitwig Studio, Mixbus, Studio One, Reason and MuLab are examples of DAWs which do not have a proper "freeze track" feature.

[tmaworks]

I really don't think we got our money's worth with v12. I am not confident I would consider upgrading to v13.

Oh, I would NEVER pay for Waveform considering all the inadequacies of the free version. They're not there, yet. They're not at the point where they can take my money. Basically, for me, Waveform is a glorified audio editor -Not meant for serious tracking (large sessions) or mixing. Sure, the potentials' there, but the brass tacks just aren't yet...

Hoping they do something soon...

Lately I realized it's quite OK for tracking, but still not for serious mixing. I wouldn't call it 'a glorified audio editor' for sure. In fact, I find it the best for me considering the tracking of all DAWs I know. Routing, controlling, and freezing (almost) is unparalleled among the other DAWs.

What do you mean by "freezing"?

Also, how many tracks are you doing at once during tracking? Just one or two, or are we talking 10 plus mics, here?

I should clarify, too - Should've said FOR ME, Waveform is basically a glorified audio editor at this point in time...

I'm not doing more than one track at once. I'm not an octopus But yes, we are talking 10+ tracks in the Project. I also don't use mics, I use Waveform as an 'advanced' sequencer. I do everything from MIDI to the final mix. I need ONE DAW to do all the tasks from the start to the finish. I don't want to use one DAW for tracking and another for mixing and so on. I'm used to change MIDI, synths, effects even during the mixing process when they're not OK. I don't want to switch back to the first DAW, make changes, render the Track, switch to the second DAW, update the new track, adjust it, ... That's why I mentioned the freezing. I can free some resources, but be able to make the edit in matter of seconds. This is also the reason I wouldn't call Waveform an audio editor. Sure, there are few drawbacks, but I think the Waveform is ALMOST THERE

I would agree that Waveform is almost there -For sure. I'm doing 14+tracks on the drums ALONE. So, I've got to have that quickness and ease of tracking -And stability. Which, REAPER, as much as I hate to say it, seems to have. I absolutely cannot STAND to do any editing/ comping taskings in Reaper, but simple recording and mixing is good -Even on my laptop from 2012 that only has 4 gigs of ram. I've had Waveform seize up on me when I'm really pushing into the 40-50 track count. Even before then. I know it's probably to do with my computer, but I don't really have $500 to drop on a new computer at the moment, so I kinda gotta make it work/ take what I can get...

[tmaworks]

If you are recording an entire band, either live or in a studio, you don't need to be an octopus to use even more than 10 mics at a time. You could easily use 8+ mics on a drum set alone, then add guitars, vocals, etc.

Freezing tracks is a common feature that *many* DAWs offer in some form or another, though the "freeze point" feature of Waveform is more flexible than what most others offer. Logic, Cubase, Digital Performer and Ableton Live are a few other examples of DAWs which have this feature, though they typically force you to freeze *everything* on the track rather than being able to selectively freeze a subset of the plugins (everything up to the freeze point) as you can in Waveform. FL Studio, Bitwig Studio, Mixbus, Studio One, Reason and MuLab are examples of DAWs which do not have a proper "freeze track" feature.

Waveform is AWESOME -And, I simply cannot imagine using Reaper for editing (I know there are some people out there who just think it's a dream for editing, but NOT me...), but I've had Waveform seize up on me during tracking my drum kit with 14 mics, whereas Reaper seems to perform a little better on my 14 yr old laptop or whatever it is (only 4 gigs of ram, as well...). Also, some of the little things in Waveform make it weird and not very fast when it comes to tracking. Ex: The "select +" feature only applies to certain parameters, there is no phase invert button on each track -you have to go into an extra menu to do that. Things for mixing, too -You can't select and disarm all plugins, you can't undo/ redo volume and pan adjustments (or plugin adjustments)... Little things like these that you wouldn't think would add up DO. Also, Reaper has a built-in bridge, which is cool because I like to use a bunch of 32-bit plugins... I'd love to be able to park in Waveform and just call it a day because Reaper to me is NOT a friendly program, but for SIMPLE tracking (straight up pushing record) and mixing, it's pretty alright...