Comparing Dune 3.5 With Hive 2

[PieBerger]

Whatever

you already wasted more time and energy then you should have, obviously a slow day at the office and looking to windup folks to pass the time

not by a long shot, lfo8 made these "tests" or "contests" between synths before, so how is it a "slow day in the office" thats just a lame cop out.

wags was up for the challenge and you failed to step up, so you're not actually interested in testing his ears ergo you are just being a windup merchant

[astralprojection]

Whatever

you already wasted more time and energy then you should have, obviously a slow day at the office and looking to windup folks to pass the time

not by a long shot, lfo8 made these "tests" or "contests" between synths before, so how is it a "slow day in the office" thats just a lame cop out.

wags was up for the challenge and you failed to step up, so you're not actually interested in testing his ears ergo you are just being a windup merchant

wait what? what challenge are you talking about here? how can i fail to step up if im unfamiliar with what youre talking about?
this is why i even pm'd LFO8 to make such a challenge, cause i dont buy he can tell them apart. wtf are you even talking about? are you one of his sycophants?

[pdxindy]

not by a long shot, lfo8 made these "tests" or "contests" between synths before, so how is it a "slow day in the office" thats just a lame cop out.

wags was up for the challenge and you failed to step up, so you're not actually interested in testing his ears ergo you are just being a windup merchant

Best just to put trolls on ignore...

[PieBerger]

not by a long shot, lfo8 made these "tests" or "contests" between synths before, so how is it a "slow day in the office" thats just a lame cop out.

wags was up for the challenge and you failed to step up, so you're not actually interested in testing his ears ergo you are just being a windup merchant

Best just to put trolls on ignore...

way ahead of you, life is too short to keep putting up with the tedious contrarians here!

[astralprojection]

not by a long shot, lfo8 made these "tests" or "contests" between synths before, so how is it a "slow day in the office" thats just a lame cop out.

wags was up for the challenge and you failed to step up, so you're not actually interested in testing his ears ergo you are just being a windup merchant

Best just to put trolls on ignore...

troll, ha, what a cringe cop out. ive said nothing "troll" what so ever.
ive even encouraged a challenge, and ive even sent a pm to lfo8, the guy who is a chief in making these challenges. wtf are you guys even talking about

[astralprojection]

not by a long shot, lfo8 made these "tests" or "contests" between synths before, so how is it a "slow day in the office" thats just a lame cop out.

wags was up for the challenge and you failed to step up, so you're not actually interested in testing his ears ergo you are just being a windup merchant

Best just to put trolls on ignore...

way ahead of you, life is too short to keep putting up with the tedious contrarians here!

omg why the f are you guys putting me on ignore, thats so unbeliavbly cringe i havent even said anything to have a reason to do that, haha wtf

[Urs]

Sadly, neither is MPE capable, which is a bit surprising to me, especially for U-He.

Our stuff still works with any MPE controller and covers pretty much most of MPE. The only thing missing at this point is the global channel for pitch slides on all notes.

We have decide to do this in conjunction with CLAP and NoteExpressions. I think we're maybe one release away from 100% MPE compatibility, maybe even MPE+ (loving our Osmose!) for Hive. That is, the final CLAP version might actually be 100% MPE compatible.

We're also adding Release Velocity at some point. While not technically part of MPE, it sure is something a lot of MPE controllers support as well.

[wagtunes]

Whatever

you already wasted more time and energy then you should have, obviously a slow day at the office and looking to windup folks to pass the time

Hey man, all I said in my OP was that, to my ears, Dune 3 and Hive 2 sound nothing alike. That's all. If somebody wants to make a big to do about that, it's not my problem.

[pdxindy]

We're also adding Release Velocity at some point. While not technically part of MPE, it sure is something a lot of MPE controllers support as well.

Good for other DAW's... it's already easy to use Release in Bitwig with u-he CLAP synths

[petedako]

WRONG again — put the manual aside and try the DEMO

You can just as easily switch between any of those "CLEAN • NORMAL • DIRTY " engine types on any sound or preset

The distinction is a bit tricky, I suppose I meant filter models as opposed to types. The manual says of the synth engine:

CLEAN...............Wide oscillator detune, linear attack, exponential decay and release, perfectly linear i.e. non-distorting State Variable filter without oversampling. In filter modes Comb, Dissonant and Reverb, a dynamic limiter prevents build-up.
NORMAL..........Exponential oscillator detune law, s-curve envelope attack, short punchy decays, oversampled, self-oscillating Ladder filter with non-linear resonance. In filter modes Comb, Dissonant and Reverb, a dynamic limiter prevents build-up.
DIRTY.................Evenly-spaced oscillator detuning, exponential envelopes, oversampled self-oscillat- ing Steiner-Parker (Sallen-Key diode ring) filter... This filter is similar to the classic KorgTM MS-20, but unbuffered so that current from the second pole leaks back into the first pole. Very smooth when tamed, but can get very screamy and erratic! Adds distortion to filter modes Comb, Dissonant, Reverb and Sideband.

[Lbdunequest]

im just gonna say quickly that dune 3 is way better than hive 2. in every way.
disclaimer: the only good u-he synth there is is Zebra (bazille is nice aswell but i mean, its a bit of a niche synth tbh) The others are rubbish, diva included (which i think personally speaking, sounds bad.). Wow big whoof you wanna fight about it?

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My dad's plugin is bigger than your dad's plugin!

You mean butt-plugin?

[THE INTRANCER]

Hive 2 has a hidden Midi Table that provides an overview of 20 assigned slots at any one time and has a comprehensive CC controller system. Dune 3 is rather more conservative with just 7 and more limited on the CC side.

[THE INTRANCER]

I've owned both for many years with Hive, in particular, being the longest from back in 2015 so I can be objective about their strengths and weaknesses.

seriously, tho: no. your opinion is not, by definition 'objective'. it's still an opinion, still subjective (even tho i also prefer dune3 to hive2)...

I think it's you that doesn't understand the difference between objective and subjective. I did actually listen to my teachers at school.

[wagtunes]

I've owned both for many years with Hive, in particular, being the longest from back in 2015 so I can be objective about their strengths and weaknesses.

seriously, tho: no. your opinion is not, by definition 'objective'. it's still an opinion, still subjective (even tho i also prefer dune3 to hive2)...

I think it's you that doesn't understand the difference between objective and subjective. I did actually listen to my teachers at school.

I don't know what school you went to but this is what I was taught.

Here are the definitions.

Objective

1. (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Subjective

1. based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

But God bless this forum because you guys will twist definitions any way you can to suit your own purpose.

This is just another reason why our world is such a mess.

[vurt]

I've owned both for many years with Hive, in particular, being the longest from back in 2015 so I can be objective about their strengths and weaknesses.

seriously, tho: no. your opinion is not, by definition 'objective'. it's still an opinion, still subjective (even tho i also prefer dune3 to hive2)...

I think it's you that doesn't understand the difference between objective and subjective. I did actually listen to my teachers at school.

I don't know what school you went to but this is what I was taught.

Here are the definitions.

Objective

1. (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Subjective

1. based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

But God bless this forum because you guys will twist definitions any way you can to suit your own purpose.

This is just another reason why our world is such a mess.

im not sure where he went to school, uk im assuming.
the rest of us learned the definitions you posted above, but whatever school intrancer went to, also seem to have messed up "obscure". i mean, why else would someone call the sem obscure?