One of my first reactons to Hive2.1 was why only 2 LFOs?
After some time using it, I know that the shape sequencer and even the vibrato LFO can be used as an LFO.
I was even pointing out to someone else, who had the same initial thought, that you have a lot of modulation in Hive2. And I think it's true. Nevertheless, I often wish I had 2 more LFOs for the or 2 Mseg for the ease of use.
The function generators are cool possibility, but for basic modulation needs it's not always fitting.
Hive2 has these greaty x/y pads. And I quite like the REC function in the step sequencer. It's super fun.
Why not combine that. Why not add a motion recorder for the x/y pads? This way you could easily record the movement and create some very dynamic and complex, organic and perfectly fitting modulation. You would just chose a timing window (1/2, 1, 2, 3) and press record. After the time window record is stoped an the motion is played in a loop.
You can do that already in your daw of course, but it's sometimes about the ease of use and you could save it in a patch (maybe?)
As Hive2 is pretty hands on, I think this would fit even more than MSEG or other methods.
Thoughts about Hive2 modulation and x/y motion recorder
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
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- KVRian
- 814 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin
The ability to control these assigned parameters in realtime would disappear in this scenario, that'd be quite the disadvantage for some (especially for NKS users). Also, recording the movement of an XY pad would be the (rough) equivalent of having two MSEGs per XY pad (one random hand-drawn shape per axis), but if they sat on that XY macro level, they'd be out of reach of the synth engine. Again something I'd personally dislike, a synth with 8 MSEGs that can't be used inside the synth engine.
I don't know, this wouldn't have my vote.
Why not try to recreate the motion you have in mind by controlling the parameters directly via Shape Sequencer and LFOs? I bet you can get pretty close that way, in many cases at least.
(I say 'why not try' but of course I realize that that involves more work, messing with the patch, compared to recording a quick mouse movement)
I don't know, this wouldn't have my vote.
Why not try to recreate the motion you have in mind by controlling the parameters directly via Shape Sequencer and LFOs? I bet you can get pretty close that way, in many cases at least.
(I say 'why not try' but of course I realize that that involves more work, messing with the patch, compared to recording a quick mouse movement)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
The idea is mainly the hands on approach. Subtle modulation can be a bit difficult to setup in Hive. With the movement of the mouse you can easily create modulation that fit's to the sound without thinking to much. As said, it's basically host automation, but much more accessible.
The shape sequencer is great, it's great for rhythmic modulation. But it's not giving the complex control of a mseg and for very slow modulation it's a bit more difficult to get right than an LFO for me.
But I understand that you dislike that you can't edit it. But I think it could be very powerful and easy to use. The main wish for me in Hive2 is more modulation possibilities. It's not bad now, but when you ask me that's what I'm missing.
The shape sequencer is great, it's great for rhythmic modulation. But it's not giving the complex control of a mseg and for very slow modulation it's a bit more difficult to get right than an LFO for me.
But I understand that you dislike that you can't edit it. But I think it could be very powerful and easy to use. The main wish for me in Hive2 is more modulation possibilities. It's not bad now, but when you ask me that's what I'm missing.
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- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I like the idea of a motion recorder in Hive. Not sure how it might be implemented.
Basically, I do that in the DAW cause I use the ERAE Touch or Linnstrument to control X/Y and Z and that is per note! So I'm unlikely to use a motion recorder much at all.
For the longest time I wanted more Mod slots in Hive cause I regularly ran out, but now with the CLAP version in Bitwig, I have unlimited per voice modulation using Bitwig modulators. Now I'm good to go!
Basically, I do that in the DAW cause I use the ERAE Touch or Linnstrument to control X/Y and Z and that is per note! So I'm unlikely to use a motion recorder much at all.
For the longest time I wanted more Mod slots in Hive cause I regularly ran out, but now with the CLAP version in Bitwig, I have unlimited per voice modulation using Bitwig modulators. Now I'm good to go!