So what’s the big gorilla of additive synths now?

[HunterKiller]

After all these years, I was finally able to get a 32bit version of Harmor working in Cubase 12. And yep, just as I remembered, it's as complex now as it was 15 years ago. IOW, manual time.

Harmor has only been out for 11 years.

[vurt]

After all these years, I was finally able to get a 32bit version of Harmor working in Cubase 12. And yep, just as I remembered, it's as complex now as it was 15 years ago. IOW, manual time.

Harmor has only been out for 11 years.

he's on a different calendar to you.

[niterateaudio]

After all these years, I was finally able to get a 32bit version of Harmor working in Cubase 12. And yep, just as I remembered, it's as complex now as it was 15 years ago. IOW, manual time.

Harmor has only been out for 11 years.

I thought Image Line were getting out of making synth plugins? (Maybe I may have read that wrong)

[Halonmusic]

After all these years, I was finally able to get a 32bit version of Harmor working in Cubase 12. And yep, just as I remembered, it's as complex now as it was 15 years ago. IOW, manual time.

Harmor has only been out for 11 years.

I thought Image Line were getting out of making synth plugins? (Maybe I may have read that wrong)

thats true

[niterateaudio]

After all these years, I was finally able to get a 32bit version of Harmor working in Cubase 12. And yep, just as I remembered, it's as complex now as it was 15 years ago. IOW, manual time.

Harmor has only been out for 11 years.

I thought Image Line were getting out of making synth plugins? (Maybe I may have read that wrong)

thats true

Thanks for confirming. I thought I was losing it.. because I saw this thread and checked their site and they are still for sale.. so got all confused.

[sjm]

The IL plugins were originally discontinued as VSTs, but apparently there was a change of heart. Scott posted on KVR a while back that the VSTs will return, but there's no date as to when. Bear in mind there are a lot of IL plugins that presumably all need to be ported to VST3 and the latest Mac OS (and by the time that's done, they probably won't work on whatever Apple have decided is the new flavour of the month).

As for the question as to how long they will continue working on Windows... I don't have any plugins that have stopped working on Windows. There's a few ancient SynthEdit plugins that don't bridge that well (insane CPU consumption), but they still load. What's a lot more likely is that the company producing the plugin goes bust and you can't authenticate the plugin any more - something that now also applies to Image-Line btw. The regkey authorisation has gone the way of the dodo and it's now all C/R instead

[Tj Shredder]

There was not even one plugin of IL, that ever worked reliably or at all on Mac (personal experience…).

[fmr]

There was not even one plugin of IL, that ever worked reliably or at all on Mac (personal experience…).

Blame Apple. That's a Mac problem, not a IL problem. It doesn't affect just IL plug-ins. It affects A LOT of plug-ins, especially when Apple launches a new OS (which is EVERY YEAR).

[Tj Shredder]

Well, they sell less and other companies have no problem to get their stuff running an MacOS easily...
The biggest Gorilla could be Sumu from Madronalabs btw... Hopefully soon...

[pdxindy]

There was not even one plugin of IL, that ever worked reliably or at all on Mac (personal experience…).

Yeah... I waited a long time for a reliable Mac version of Harmor. Never happened. I finally gave up.

[pdxindy]

The biggest Gorilla could be Sumu from Madronalabs btw... Hopefully soon...

Looking forward to Sumu! Madrona always makes stuff with high quality sound so there is a chance this could be a rather unique new synth!

[Korg Supporter]

The biggest Gorilla could be Sumu from Madronalabs btw... Hopefully soon...

Looking forward to Sumu! Madrona always makes stuff with high quality sound so there is a chance this could be a rather unique new synth!

It's not just an additive synth: it will have FM synthesis and a Polymoog-inspired filter!

[Boy Wonder]

I'm actually surprised Madrona Labs gets mentioned relatively frequently on KVR. I would've thought their stuff was too esoteric and left field to be taken seriously. I guess not.

[Tj Shredder]

I'm actually surprised Madrona Labs gets mentioned relatively frequently on KVR. I would've thought their stuff was too esoteric and left field to be taken seriously. I guess not.

Not at all. Its serious stuff. Have a look at the Aalto CM, it comes free with the Computermusic mag...

[CrystalWizard]

I'm actually surprised Madrona Labs gets mentioned relatively frequently on KVR. I would've thought their stuff was too esoteric and left field to be taken seriously. I guess not.

Madrona Labs makes some serious stuff. Some people like esoteric and left field.

on topic: i just played around with Loom II on my friends system. So far i really like it. I might buy it for dollars even though it's abandoned. What else is similar? I have Cube and Alchemy v1. I've also used Harmor on that same system, i didn't have a lot of time but i was majorly impressed. That was a few years ago... now i can't even buy it as a vst anyway...