KVR Audio

Scoox · Post by **Scoox** » Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:35 pm

Update: I went ahead and entered my activation code at the prompt when loading the plugin for the first time, but it doesn't work because I had previously redeemed that code in the iLok License Manager, so I guess I'll need to contact Soundtoys about it:

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MJACau · Post by **MJACau** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:39 pm

I've already eliminated all ilok plugins from my projects, the only ilok plugins I use are in repair or mastering.
I hardly use the few Soundtoys I have because of ilok and the extra pain doing computer upgrades which is painful enough.

RobGee · Post by **RobGee** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:18 pm

Lol at all the iLok haters, install software, plugin iLok, done…

I think I’ve had one issue with it in the 10+ years I’ve been using it.

gaggle of hermits · Post by **gaggle of hermits** » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:13 pm

Scoox wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:35 pm Update: I went ahead and entered my activation code at the prompt when loading the plugin for the first time, but it doesn't work because I had previously redeemed that code in the iLok License Manager, so I guess I'll need to contact Soundtoys about it:

have you considered reading the manual?

you've redeemed the licence. you manage its location in the ilok licence manager.

MJACau · Post by **MJACau** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:20 am

RobGee wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:18 pm Lol at all the iLok haters, install software, plugin iLok, done…

I think I’ve had one issue with it in the 10+ years I’ve been using it.

I'm not a hater if something wastes my time and makes things more difficult I drop it.
There is so many competing plugins that do a similar job, iLok needs to dragged into the modern age of activation and deactivation via a web for me to care. I'm just indifferent to them.

rasmusklump · Post by **rasmusklump** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:02 am

Thank god I don't need the web when I install one of my iLok plugins.
That copy protection is exactly the reason I have 100s od Softube, UVI etc licences and zero IK, Arturia, NI etc...

MJACau · Post by **MJACau** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:13 pm

Thank god I don't need the web when I install one of my iLok plugins.

Or post here at all.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:03 pm

You learn to love iLok when your machine and/hard drive dies and you have to contact all the devs manually to try an get your license auths revoked. A computer failure is a much higher risk than a iLok dying. But if you prefer that higher risk for... what? then ok. you get to be you.

wvshpr · Post by **wvshpr** » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:52 pm

plexuss wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:03 pm You learn to love iLok when your machine and/hard drive dies and you have to contact all the devs manually to try an get your license auths revoked. A computer failure is a much higher risk than a iLok dying. But if you prefer that higher risk for... what? then ok. you get to be you.

Time Machine Backup?

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:47 am

NM. I dont care what auth you use or want to use. Hope your choice works out for you.

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:24 am

It’s a personal decision whether to use iLock via dongle or machine. Neither one can be generalised as objectively better.

I’ve got 3 companies using iLock. Laptop HD died. I wrote one email and copy/pasted it to the companies, took a couple of days to get positive replies from all

FOR ME this was worth it so as not to have a dongle connected to my laptop when I wanted to work on music in a bar/cafe/train etc.

YMMV, of course.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:43 am

Is this still true, I can't find any info on their site about non-iLok activation.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:06 am

RobGee wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:18 pm Lol at all the iLok haters, install software, plugin iLok, done…

I think I’ve had one issue with it in the 10+ years I’ve been using it.

We have recently found out that an issue that users have reported for many years was related to iLok. Randomly, projects would not open because our plug-ins - which are not iLok-protected - would crash. What happened? Users had an iLok protected plug-in in the project and the host would load that plug-in right before our plug-in. And the iLok software would somehow corrupt the memory that our plug-in was living in, and then our plug-in crashed. This also happens with plug-in of many others. No word from PACE if this was ever addressed or ever will be.

I applaud Soundtoys for moving away from this thing.

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:24 am

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:36 pm

Urs wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:06 am
RobGee wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:18 pm Lol at all the iLok haters, install software, plugin iLok, done…

I think I’ve had one issue with it in the 10+ years I’ve been using it.
We have recently found out that an issue that users have reported for many years was related to iLok. Randomly, projects would not open because our plug-ins - which are not iLok-protected - would crash. What happened? Users had an iLok protected plug-in in the project and the host would load that plug-in right before our plug-in. And the iLok software would somehow corrupt the memory that our plug-in was living in, and then our plug-in crashed. This also happens with plug-in of many others. No word from PACE if this was ever addressed or ever will be.

I applaud Soundtoys for moving away from this thing.

How widespread is this issue for other devs? I've never had a problem with uhe and iLok and I use both all the in my work. I'd love it if uhe products were iLok as well. Machine auth is too risky and annoying to me.

iLok looks to be optional now with Soundtoys