Modalics - Beat Scholar/New drum sequencer

[pekbro]

For paid customers, where does one download the latest version?

Demo should be the same download, I just get emailed a direct link from them and use that.

Do you get emailed each time there is an update? Or the original email from them with the download will always download the latest?

Lately yeah, I've been getting emails pretty regularly for the last few updates, though I don't recall it always being that way. Seems like they may still be working to streamline their services.

I bought it on Nov 18 2022... have not received any email since. Has there been an update since then?

Last update notice before this was on 11/5/22, so nope.

[pdxindy]

I bought it on Nov 18 2022... have not received any email since. Has there been an update since then?

Last update notice before this was on 11/5/22, so nope.

Thanks!

[pekbro]

@pdxindy: No worries

btw: FR for the Modalics guys, version numbers on the installation packages would be helpful, in case you have to revert for some reason. No doubt the win 7 hold out guys would find that useful as well. thx

-Cheers

[DCrown]

No offense guys but if you're going to run a software museum you really have to hang onto your installers. It comes with the territory.

If your target was professional users, then a dev would not need to care about cpu usage that much and develop for new op systems only. Most plugin users are no professionals, though and selling plugins is a business, isn't it?

Plugins are used by people all over the world, so the standard of your country might not be the general standard, where ever you might be from.
You would be surprised to know how many Windows XP and 7 users there still are, I read an article somewhere about 6 months ago, quite a lot of (potential) customers!
Afaik for example Cockos Reaper updates still work with older systems.
As to prof or not one could disagree, because there are about 80.000 new releases or uploads of audio every day, well, we all know that every daw user knows how to render and upload, everyone can produce and upload nowadays or call himself a music producer,
as a music producer you don't need any proof of qualification or proof of income.

Last but not least some older still good plugins won't run on current systems!

[Tj Shredder]

True, but the amount of users using ancient system is small enough to ignore as a dev. The loss by supporting those is way bigger than the loss in sales. Amateurs often think their demand is crucial for the business… Its not at all.
If you still run XP or Win 7, you run a high risk as well. And regarding Beat Scholar, already version 1.0 was top. You loose less than what you loose by not upgrading the system anyway. I hope Modalics does not put too much effort in supporting those old systems. It takes away resources for the majority of users…
If you run old systems, and you might have a reason, first of all do your research before you even mention it. If anything doesn‘t work, look for system requirements. If those don‘t match you should know its not a bug per se…

[DCrown]

True, but the amount of users using ancient system is small enough to ignore as a dev. The loss by supporting those is way bigger than the loss in sales. Amateurs often think their demand is crucial for the business… Its not at all.
If you still run XP or Win 7, you run a high risk as well. And regarding Beat Scholar, already version 1.0 was top. You loose less than what you loose by not upgrading the system anyway. I hope Modalics does not put too much effort in supporting those old systems. It takes away resources for the majority of users…
If you run old systems, and you might have a reason, first of all do your research before you even mention it. If anything doesn‘t work, look for system requirements. If those don‘t match you should know its not a bug per se…

And you really think a lot more daw users have Win 10 or 11 than XP or 7, I don't think so.
The world is not just the western civilization and kvr audio, gearspace and VI Control forums!
Yes, I agree v1 was already great.

[pdxindy]

True, but the amount of users using ancient system is small enough to ignore as a dev. The loss by supporting those is way bigger than the loss in sales. Amateurs often think their demand is crucial for the business… Its not at all.

As of 6 months ago, 12% of windows users were still on Windows 7. A quick search did not find a more recent number. Maybe in the past 6 months it has dropped below 10%?

That of course includes computers that hardly get used. I suspect a survey or audio producers would reveal a lower number.

[DCrown]

This survey or numbers include companies with many pcs in their offices and of course companies want to be or even have to be up to date, it's something different when you look at daw users and completely different in some parts of the world where xp and 7 still is standard for private use and most daw and plugin users are private users and not professional musicians or producers. If you sold plugins to professionals only, people who make a living by producing music, you would not survive as a dev or had to raise prices extremely.
But I see the point that devs do not have to support old systems, for sure they would lose more customers than you can imagine. Luckily most plugins still work on xp or 7.
Why do you think Reaper still supports old systems?!
And all the numbers are speculation anyway, no one really knows the exact number of daw users.

[pdxindy]

Why do you think Reaper still supports old systems?!

Because the main developer/creator is wealthy and doesn't need to make money from Reaper.

[pdxindy]

it's something different when you look at daw users and completely different in some parts of the world where xp and 7 still is standard for private use

Where is this from?... do you have anything to back that up? (I'm not agreeing or disagreeing as I have no idea about it)

[DCrown]

it's something different when you look at daw users and completely different in some parts of the world where xp and 7 still is standard for private use

Where is this from?... do you have anything to back that up? (I'm not agreeing or disagreeing as I have no idea about it)

It was you who posted numbers!
It's not difficult to guess or to know that
in some parts of the world not everyone can afford to upgrade or buy a new more powerful pc and my circle of daw users I know is not representative, but 50% still win7.
It's all speculation or does anyone
know how many daw users there are,
I don't think so.
I use Reaper and I do not even know
how much Reaper users there are.
Anyway Reaper isn't the most used daw (I suppose?), lots of other daws have a higher ranking.
I remember that I saw a daw ranking maybe 3 years ago, so to make such a ranking someone normally should know how many users per daw there are?!
I suppose the ranking refered to some poll, so not reliable at all.
It's a modalics thread, so I intend to stop speculating, we won't find out the exact number anyway. So everyone who can afford and use Beat Scholar is a lucky guy, because it's a great plugin.

[pdxindy]

in some parts of the world not everyone can afford to upgrade

There is no cost to upgrade from Win 7 to 10 or 11

[Tj Shredder]

Its easy to find out. Don‘t ask the doctor for health statistics. Only sick people visit him…
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-m ... /worldwide

[ftech]

I'm demoing Beat Scholar now, and using my FAFO method of demoing plugins, I'm finding the workflow quite intuitive. Nice.
I can see me using this for a lot more than just drum sequencing.

[DCrown]

I'm demoing Beat Scholar now, and using my FAFO method of demoing plugins, I'm finding the workflow quite intuitive. Nice.
I can see me using this for a lot more than just drum sequencing.

Pizza?
I always get hungry, when I play with it, don't ask me why...