As the subject states, swedish TV3 is airing Groundhog Day with Bill Murray this evening at 21:00. Just thought i'd let you all know, as this movie seems to be an important part of the Tracktion mythology. I haven't seen it myself, so i'm looking forward to it.
Oh, and it's of course called "Måndag hela veckan" in swedish.
Swedish tracktioneers: Groundhog Day on TV3 this evening!
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- KVRist
- 77 posts since 31 Mar, 2003 from Gävle, Sweden
Beautiful and strange electronic music: http://www.cellular.se
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
if you run the credits on slow frame, you'll see the T2 feature list subliminally encoded on every 100th image. 
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRian
- 699 posts since 21 Nov, 2000 from somewhere over the rainbow
Unfortunately, these scenes were cut-out on the DVDs for the German Market...valley wrote:if you run the credits on slow frame, you'll see the T2 feature list subliminally encoded on every 100th image.
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
cellular,
I think your username is interesting from my short (6 veckan) visit to Sweden to work in Trollhättan in 2000.
I recall seeing many children with mobile phones checking in with their parents.
This is only starting to become common in the US.
Do you know the story behind 'Groundhog Day', not the movie, but the unofficial holiday?
In short, there is a story that says that if a certain groundhog (a large rodent native to the US) by the name of Punxsatawney Phil (named after the town where he lives), comes out of his hole in the ground on February 2, and sees his shadow, then we are doomed to another 6 weeks of winter like weather. However, if he does not see his shadow, then spring weather is soon on the way.
The movie is only marginally related to that story. I can't imagine that the movie translates well to Swedish.
In fact, I recall that most of the US TV shows that I saw broadcast in Sweden really had quite twisted US humor in them, and I wondered what the Swedes thought about them. The shows that I thought would be hard to understand if I was not from the US were:
King of the Hill (which I never watched before visiting Sweden, but kind of got hooked on while there)
David Letterman show.
Do Swedes really enjoy these shows, or are they just a kind of strange curiosity?
-Scott
I think your username is interesting from my short (6 veckan) visit to Sweden to work in Trollhättan in 2000.
I recall seeing many children with mobile phones checking in with their parents.
This is only starting to become common in the US.
Do you know the story behind 'Groundhog Day', not the movie, but the unofficial holiday?
In short, there is a story that says that if a certain groundhog (a large rodent native to the US) by the name of Punxsatawney Phil (named after the town where he lives), comes out of his hole in the ground on February 2, and sees his shadow, then we are doomed to another 6 weeks of winter like weather. However, if he does not see his shadow, then spring weather is soon on the way.
The movie is only marginally related to that story. I can't imagine that the movie translates well to Swedish.
In fact, I recall that most of the US TV shows that I saw broadcast in Sweden really had quite twisted US humor in them, and I wondered what the Swedes thought about them. The shows that I thought would be hard to understand if I was not from the US were:
King of the Hill (which I never watched before visiting Sweden, but kind of got hooked on while there)
David Letterman show.
Do Swedes really enjoy these shows, or are they just a kind of strange curiosity?
-Scott
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- KVRAF
- 1718 posts since 3 Sep, 2003
Swedes are not all alike you know. Some get all of it, some depend on the subtitles and most are somewhere in between.
But its not as hard to pick up on cultural references as one might think.
Its trickier with shows like buffy, where they sort of make up new expressions all the time. The subtitlers never get those.
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I think most swedes get Letterman. He's very popular in Sweden. Some stuff -like when that stage hand guy comes out throwing money around him and calling everyone bitch- doesnt really translate at all, but otherwise it comes across fine.
But its not as hard to pick up on cultural references as one might think.
Its trickier with shows like buffy, where they sort of make up new expressions all the time. The subtitlers never get those.
Edit>>
I think most swedes get Letterman. He's very popular in Sweden. Some stuff -like when that stage hand guy comes out throwing money around him and calling everyone bitch- doesnt really translate at all, but otherwise it comes across fine.
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
Pukeweed, I didn't mean to say that all Swedes are the same. I just recall thinking - what kind of an impression about the US is being made when this is what is exported (King of the Hill, Letterman, etc.)?Swedes are not all alike you know. Some get all of it, some depend on the subtitles and most are somewhere in between.
But its not as hard to pick up on cultural references as one might think.
I'm not sure that translates to most, even in the USSome stuff -like when that stage hand guy comes out throwing money around him and calling everyone bitch- doesnt really translate at all
Unfortunately my Swedish is själv-lärde and quite limited, so I was pretty much unable to pick up on much of the humor on Swedish shows. The only show I could understand was one where there were competing teams of folks trying to predict the performance of certain stocks in the local stock market. I think it was called 'Börsen Wars' or something like that.
-Scott
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- KVRAF
- 1718 posts since 3 Sep, 2003
Pukeweed, I didn't mean to say that all Swedes are the same. I just recall thinking - what kind of an impression about the US is being made when this is what is exported (King of the Hill, Letterman, etc.)?
I didnt really think that you were. Just an atempt at subtle comedy.-
- KVRist
- 73 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from Sweden
I've seen "Groundhog Day" so many times that one might wonder if I'm not in a loop myself...
Definitely one of my favorite movies. So I guess I'll have to...hmm..then again, I have it on DVD and I've got two TV sets at the moment so if I get it to sync right I can watch it in "stereo"
Now, do I use external or internal sync...
Definitely one of my favorite movies. So I guess I'll have to...hmm..then again, I have it on DVD and I've got two TV sets at the moment so if I get it to sync right I can watch it in "stereo"
Now, do I use external or internal sync...
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
Ron,rpc9943 wrote:well this is a GREAT conversation on cultural differences and how swedish people view american mainstream...............
great.
RonC
You are just jealous because the movie is getting more thread-play than other time wasting - like posting dummy threads on T2
-Scott
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
I'm actually not jealous, i find that those posts are NONDUMMY and that they are useful to the userbase/community in hopes of rallying hope for our future as tracktioneers.
RonC
RonC
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- KVRian
- 1004 posts since 2 Aug, 2004 from Sweden
rockstar_not wrote: I recall seeing many children with mobile phones checking in with their parents.
Do you know the story behind 'Groundhog Day', not the movie, but the unofficial holiday?
That children has mobiles are pathetic in some ways. A couple of years ago I gave my then 10-year old son my old phone (he really needed it for logistics
) but he didn't really want it, he said everyone in his class had new flashy ones. Yeah right, we had heard that one before. So at the next class-meeting we asked the parents how many had bought phones for their kids. Nearly all of them, so my son was absolutely right. I was stunned...Swedes are allmost fed US culture with the mother's milk. Music, TV, magazines etc to the point that some identify with it more than with Swedens own culture. The first time I heard about "Punxsatawney Phil" was in some episode of Donald Duck I think - when I was a kid.
And I do like the movie...
And since getting the NFR of Tracktion and trying it out I have lots of respect for it, even though I'm a Sonar user.
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- KVRian
- 1238 posts since 10 May, 2002 from Sweden
It wouldn’t have had anything to do with the movie industry, would it? With the help of some financial support to the region from the government, Trollhättan has emerged as a bit of a hot spot for movie makers in Sweden (”Trollywood”rockstar_not wrote:cellular,
I think your username is interesting from my short (6 veckan) visit to Sweden to work in Trollhättan in 2000.
) over the last few years. The other thing Trollhättan is known for is SAAB cars but the future for the automotive industry there looks bleak. GM is expected to move most of the production to Germany. 
beltrom wrote: Swedes are allmost fed US culture with the mother's milk. Music, TV, magazines etc to the point that some identify with it more than with Swedens own culture..
This is absolutely true. One weird example: after all the court scenes that seem to be mandatory in American movies and TV shows, young Swedes know a lot more about the US legal system than their own (which is quite a bit different, especially the jury system). Oh – and of course we pretty much know the whole Miranda speech by heart: anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney yada-yada-yada...
/Yoss
