iZotope RX is not the only game in town (Alternatives list)

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Uncle E
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13986 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California

Post Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:34 pm

Calagan wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:16 pm (I must admit I need to learn spectral repair)...
Spectral De-noise doesn’t take any effort to learn and works brilliantly. Did you try it?

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masterhiggins
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:57 pm

As much as I don't like iZotope, there's nothing that compares to RX in terms of a single comprehensive program that does what it does and that well. Those NR and De-rumble/De-plosive/De-wind algos are fast and incredibly effective. I hope that Acon gets there one day. I'd love to have a viable alternative to RX, but there's not yet.

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Uncle E
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:30 pm

I use three: RX, Acoustica, and Audacity. They each have their strengths. RX can be too intelligent/slick for its own good, sometimes I just need dumb old pitch shifting or silence cropping and that's when I turn to Audacity.

Calagan
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Post Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:06 am

Uncle E wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:34 pm
Calagan wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:16 pm (I must admit I need to learn spectral repair)...
Spectral De-noise doesn’t take any effort to learn and works brilliantly. Did you try it?
Yep of course, I know how to use Spectral De-Noise. I just don't find it much better than Brusfri : for complex tasks (with different noise profiles for the same file) it's better, but it's also much more complicated to use and it's destructive, so very often I use Brusfri directly into my daw and in 5mn works done...

noiseboyuk
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Post Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:02 am

sacer wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:16 pm What are alternatives to music rebalance for isolating vocals, bass and drums ?
Spectralayers and generally thought to be the best is RipX remix.
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Uncle E
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Post Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:22 am

Calagan wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:06 am Yep of course, I know how to use Spectral De-Noise. I just don't find it much better than Brusfri : for complex tasks (with different noise profiles for the same file) it's better, but it's also much more complicated to use and it's destructive, so very often I use Brusfri directly into my daw and in 5mn works done...
Highlight the noise, click Learn, and then lower the threshold so it only effects the noise. I read the manual about all the extra settings when I was setting it up the first time but I haven’t touched those settings in years.

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Post Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:54 pm

I’m so happy to hear that my so unprofessionally compiled list helped some of you. Thank you for the feedback.

Meanwhile I made some tiny corrections and now I hope that the list is more comprehensive.
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Onnix
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Post Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:01 am

I'd like to know if anyone has found any spectral editor plugins that offer a good clone (not Spectralayers or RX)

noiseboyuk
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Post Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:05 am

This is one of those truly gobsmacking moments in audio, a huge leap forward. It also shows just how far behind the curve iZotope has fallen.

Adobe Podcast is in Beta, and part of it is an Enhance Speech algorithm. Skip to about 3m15s for the demo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVbLxJ ... o%26Motion

And Pro Tools Expert have their own tests here - https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/produc ... t-any-good

You can try this yourself for free (for now). Just upload an MP3 or WAV here - https://podcast.adobe.com/enhance#
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pixel85
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Post Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:22 am

No thanks. Adobe is a cancer ;)
Beware! The software discussed in this topic has unacceptable aliasing at -386dBTP but it can be fixed by changing the sample rate to 12Bit

noiseboyuk
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Post Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:46 am

pixel85 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:22 am No thanks. Adobe is a cancer ;)
Yeah yeah.

The point is what they are doing is leagues ahead of iZotope. All their serious development stopped a couple of versions ago.

For anyone not ideologically opposed, it's just rescued two projects for me. For free. It's absolutely astonishing - one of them was a phone contributor. It hasn't quite made them sound like they're in a booth with a U87, but it's closer than it has any right to be. Only limitations are an hour's worth of material at a time and no file bigger than 1GB.
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