Automation track is no longer visible.
- KVRist
- 482 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
I've been working with the DAW for only a few months now, so I'm still learning my way. This morning, an automation track I created for a track using a MIDI instrument plugin just disappeared. I'm sure I screwed something up along the way. I set the automation to control the volume. As I tried to figure out what I had done wrong, seems the screw up was more serious than I thought. I kinda lost track along the way, ended up muting the master volume (I assume, as I couldn't hear anything at some point), and had to reload the project file. Problem is, last I saved, the automation track is still active but not visible. It's screwing up the entire piece.
Any ideas where to find it, or even just get rid of it?
Thanks.
Any ideas where to find it, or even just get rid of it?
Thanks.
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- KVRist
- 359 posts since 21 Jun, 2020
Hey! Hold the LMB "+", located under the symbol "A". Drag to Volume&Pan Plugin (sliders where you adjust track and pan volume). If volume changes/automation have been made, then in the opened window "Volume" will be green. Click on "Volume" and the automation track will appear. To cancel an automation click LMB on a curve to make it white, then press "Delete" on your keyboard, all automation on that curve will be deleted, select the track of that automation and press "Delete". This way you can remove the automation track if no changes have been made, or hide if there have been changes (green option color), and you don't want to display the track with these changes. You can do the same with the menu by clicking on the plugin with RMB (Set quick control parameter, Clear automation curves..., Select automation curve... )
Upd. : Yes, I completely forgot, by pressing "A" on any track you can find out a lot of information about automation. Thanks @pough reminded me of this
Last edited by nowgad on Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:53 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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- KVRAF
- 1601 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
It may also have rolled up. Is there a tiny triangle next to the track name? If so, click on that tiny triangle to spin open the track, which will reveal any automation tracks concealed in it.
I do think Nowgad's advice is the most likely to be the solution, though.
I do think Nowgad's advice is the most likely to be the solution, though.
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- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
Quick tip for when you're feeling lost regarding automation:
Click any A (Automation) button on any track and choose "Active parameter curves in Edit" to see what automation exists in the whole Edit.
The automation that you see is just a view. Automation exists outside the track space but can be viewed in any track space. It can be invisible but still running. The same automation can be displayed in multiple places. This means you can do things that feel stupid and nonsensical.
There might be a bug where automation remains without being re-viewable BUT it might also just be people not knowing how to re-view automation once they've hidden it. It's hard to know. If automation is occurring on a plugin and you can't get rid of it, delete the plugin and create a new instance. That seems to be the absolute cure.
Click any A (Automation) button on any track and choose "Active parameter curves in Edit" to see what automation exists in the whole Edit.
The automation that you see is just a view. Automation exists outside the track space but can be viewed in any track space. It can be invisible but still running. The same automation can be displayed in multiple places. This means you can do things that feel stupid and nonsensical.
There might be a bug where automation remains without being re-viewable BUT it might also just be people not knowing how to re-view automation once they've hidden it. It's hard to know. If automation is occurring on a plugin and you can't get rid of it, delete the plugin and create a new instance. That seems to be the absolute cure.
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Surely there must be consensus by now...
- KVRist
- 367 posts since 26 Feb, 2017 from Lituania,Vilnius
can be turned on - menu-Automation:Show default automation curve on each track.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 482 posts since 9 Jan, 2023
Oh, my goodness! Thank you so much, guys! Yeah...seems I had them rolled up. This advice will be very useful, I think, going forward.
I surely do appreciate all the help. Again, thank you.
-Tony
I surely do appreciate all the help. Again, thank you.
-Tony
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- KVRAF
- 10879 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from Austin, TX USA
Thanks here too - just had an issue yesterday. All sorted now!
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