Sampler, Layer, randomness...

[Jolaff]

Hi,

I'm looking for a sampler that could play randomly a sample. For exemple, I could have many layer of a snare that sounds slightly different and each time a C3 is played, one snare would be triggered randomly.

I know I can do that with velocity but I wonder if there is a sampler that directly do that. ...Kontakt ???!

Thanx

[El°HYM]

Wouldnt that just be Round-Robin?

[Jolaff]

Wouldnt that just be Round-Robin?

Yes...

[donkey tugger]

The group editor in Kontakt allows you to do it;

https://www.native-instruments.com/ni-t ... oup-editor

If you scroll down to 'group start options' it explains it.

[Examigan]

Here's how to do that using HALion:
https://steinberg.help/halion/v6/en/hal ... ion_r.html

[Jolaff]

Thanx ! It seams most multi sampler can do it... "round robin" was the key word I was missing to find that out....

[echoseason]

Round Robin will cycle through various layers, which will work, but I guess there will always be that cyclic element to it. From what I think you're trying to achieve, you may want to check out Nuance by New Sonic Arts. It's criminally under appreciated, and I'm pretty sure it either has a triggering option like that, or you can assign something to do something approximate. Try the demo, see if it suits you. I used it for a while before moving to FXpansions Geist, which can do what you're looking for (and much more), but it's sadly discontinued.

[donkey tugger]

Kontakt can cycle through random groups, and I'm sure most other samplers will be able to as well.

[echoseason]

Very true, however if the OP is concerned with cost, Nuance presents a less expensive alternative with a fairly robust feature set, as well as a clear (and resizable) interface. Although the world is not lacking in samplers for sure.

[Jolaff]

Round Robin will cycle through various layers, which will work, but I guess there will always be that cyclic element to it.

I was a bit worried about that but for now I created a lead synth with Logic Pro Multi-Sampler and Kontakt (which I already owned) and in that case I can't tell there is a cycle.

Probably with a snare roll that could be annoying. Kontakt can trigger randomly but you have to have a lot of group if you don't want the same sample triggered 2-3 time in row. There should be an option to trigger randomly without triggering the same sample twice in row... maybe there is one but didn't found out...

Logic Pro Multi-Sampler doesn't seams to offer a random cycle...

Nuance seams to have a nice UI. Can we create our own tag in the browser ?

...but for now i will do with what I already have...

[echoseason]

Yeah since you have Kontakt already stick with that. Regarding tagging in Nuance- yes it has fully customizable tagging.

[donkey tugger]

Round Robin will cycle through various layers, which will work, but I guess there will always be that cyclic element to it.

I was a bit worried about that but for now I created a lead synth with Logic Pro Multi-Sampler and Kontakt (which I already owned) and in that case I can't tell there is a cycle.

Probably with a snare roll that could be annoying. Kontakt can trigger randomly but you have to have a lot of group if you don't want the same sample triggered 2-3 time in row. There should be an option to trigger randomly without triggering the same sample twice in row... maybe there is one but didn't found out...

Logic Pro Multi-Sampler doesn't seams to offer a random cycle...

Nuance seams to have a nice UI. Can we create our own tag in the browser ?

...but for now i will do with what I already have...

There's a script here that I've used before;

https://normalsounds.com/blog/random-ro ... scripting/

All you need to do before applying is change the number of groups from 7 to however many you have. I've only used it for melodic stuff (guitars) so not sure how it would work with drumkits mapping, but worth a go.

[Jolaff]

ah, and by the way I just tried with Battery 4 and the random cycle never trigger twice the same sample