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Danilo Villanova
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830 posts since 30 Apr, 2018

Post Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:39 am

My only real point or comparison would be Studio One and Reason and yeah, they both feel nicer working with MIDI. Sadly, this is one area of the DAW that the developer doesn't care much about, which is baffling if you think about it. I'm trying Cubase now, but not enough time spent with it to compare to the others.

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a9k1tp
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114 posts since 12 Jul, 2015

Post Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:58 am

Niowiad wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:45 am That would be my mistake, saying it snaps to "visible" grid for midi.
It does for the main timeline, but not on the piano roll.

The grid in REAPER's piano roll visually adapts to zoom, but it's true that it still tries to snap at whatever subdivision you set the grid on when zoomed out.
So if you leave the grid at 1/64 or 1/128 and zoom it all out it's basically impossible to be precise.
I don't know why you would do that though. Sure it would be better if the snapping automatically followed.

I tend to use 1/16, 1/32 at max and even then I find it manageable to snap to the subdivision I need unless I'm zooming so far out that notes become hard to even see and click on.
Whenever I need higher subdivisions I quickly adjust that with the mouse wheel in a split second.
Hardly a deal breaker for me, but I understand if someone finds it inconvenient.
I can live with unnecessary extra tracks (no intuitive parallel fx processing in the same track).

Snap to visible grid is only a single thing which makes me not feel at home in Reaper. We can do this in arrange view, but not in piano roll. This is very unnatural.

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a9k1tp
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114 posts since 12 Jul, 2015

Post Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:02 am

Danilo Villanova wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:39 am Sadly, this is one area of the DAW that the developer doesn't care much about, which is baffling if you think about it.
If they do, this DAW will become a production beast too.

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NAD
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1410 posts since 28 Jan, 2004

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:39 am

a9k1tp wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:04 pm 1 Big problem (No workaround) - Midi programming is the worst experience in Reaper. It is the only reason I don't use Reaper for making beats. And there is no fix, no script. Notes do not snap to visible grid. A "Grid snap settings follow grid visibility" setting for the MIDI editor is a natural behaviour which should be present in any DAW.
a9k1tp wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:58 am Snap to visible grid is only a single thing which makes me not feel at home in Reaper. We can do this in arrange view, but not in piano roll. This is very unnatural.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=260388
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__Karlo__
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38 posts since 2 Jan, 2023

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:47 am

You have assign the actions to key commands in the action menu for the midi editor. Once you find the actions that work for you in the MIDI editor…. It’s the best midi editor ever IME.

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Biome_Digital
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2343 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:49 am

Yay Reaper!

martinjuenke
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6250 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:55 am

I like these Reaper threads.
The last shelter for faithful disciples of cult pontiffs.

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1463 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:59 am

martinjuenke wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:55 am I like these Reaper threads.
The last shelter for faithful disciples of cult pontiffs.
have you tried Reaper on Mac?
or Bitwig on Linux?

there are so many possibilities! :P
There's no Logic to Windows

martinjuenke
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6250 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:09 am

FapFilter wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:59 am
martinjuenke wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:55 am I like these Reaper threads.
The last shelter for faithful disciples of cult pontiffs.
have you tried Reaper on Mac?
or Bitwig on Linux?

there are so many possibilities! :P
As many as Logic on Windows? :D

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KVRian
1463 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:18 am

THERE'S NO LOGIC TO WINDOWS!!!

(though i wouldn't be too surprised if 5.x still ran on current machines 🤓)
There's no Logic to Windows

sQeetz
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1508 posts since 8 Jan, 2005

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:28 am

Windows - no Logic - confirmed.
Reasonable. Although not on Linux
void main(dumb)

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GaryG
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7456 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:40 pm

a9k1tp wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:58 am Snap to visible grid is only a single thing which makes me not feel at home in Reaper. We can do this in arrange view, but not in piano roll. This is very unnatural.
I'm intrigued now as to what I'm not understanding as the adaptive grid is specifically for the piano roll/midi editor...

Is this not what you mean? :


Run the adaptive grid action and choose anything but fixed:
Screenshot_20230212_201419.png

Add some notes at 1/16 grid (just for ref):
Screenshot_20230212_202044.png

Zoom into 1/256 and add some more notes (they're snapping to the grid)
Screenshot_20230212_202431.png

Zoom back out and you can see them in between the 1/32 grid lines, if you move them they now snap to those lines...
Screenshot_20230212_203635.png

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a9k1tp
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114 posts since 12 Jul, 2015

Post Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:01 am

GaryG wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:40 pm
a9k1tp wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:58 am Snap to visible grid is only a single thing which makes me not feel at home in Reaper. We can do this in arrange view, but not in piano roll. This is very unnatural.
I'm intrigued now as to what I'm not understanding as the adaptive grid is specifically for the piano roll/midi editor...

Is this not what you mean? :


Run the adaptive grid action and choose anything but fixed:
Screenshot_20230212_201419.png


Add some notes at 1/16 grid (just for ref):
Screenshot_20230212_202044.png


Zoom into 1/256 and add some more notes (they're snapping to the grid)
Screenshot_20230212_202431.png


Zoom back out and you can see them in between the 1/32 grid lines, if you move them they now snap to those lines...
Screenshot_20230212_203635.png


Not what you're after?
Yes, exactly this. If this is a native action, then why this script https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=260388 even exists? :dog:

This software has somehow managed to provide the worst default settings possible. Thanks for the help, I will check it out.

Artie Fichelle
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121 posts since 28 Nov, 2004

Post Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:45 am

Reaper is like building your own house, if you know how, it is perfect, otherwise could be a nightmare.
artie fichelle sounds natural

whassup
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239 posts since 2 Oct, 2021

Post Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:06 am

Artie Fichelle wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:45 am Reaper is like building your own house, if you know how, it is perfect, otherwise could be a nightmare.
Yeah, lotsa the default settings don't work for me. I changed so much over the years. And now it it the DAW that does so many things my way. Very satisfying. (Just have to make sure to keep a backup of my configs) :lol:

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