KVR Audio

zecarlo · Post by **zecarlo** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:45 pm

Does anybody know how often Xfer do sales, if at all?

Pretty sure I noticed they had a sale on ages ago, but not seen anything recently.

SamDi · Post by **SamDi** » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:08 am

No, never.

Boy Wonder · Post by **Boy Wonder** » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:32 am

Serum is so popular, and so well-utilized, I'm surprised they haven't come out with a Serum Lite like Synthmaster One, or at least have 1/2 off sales. Then again, if folks are still buying it in droves, why cut themselves short, right?

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:51 am

Money incredibly well spent.
Actually “spent” is not the right word; “invested” is more appropriate.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:49 am

I got it rent-to-own with no extra premium to do so from Spice. I paid off the last handful of months in one go which was a nice option. It made it more fiscially possible paying $10/mo for 19 months.

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:01 am

I got it on the rent to own years ago as well, it's not a huge deal using splice for a while imo. I seem to recall Duda saying that he does not believe in sales a while back.

FAS122 · Post by **FAS122** » Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:18 am

Never. Steve said that he doesn't want people to pay in full then there to be a sale, which I think is reasonable.

(I think he said that, don't quote me.)

zecarlo · Post by **zecarlo** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:31 am

Thanks for the responses, everyone.

I'm weighing up a few options and this has helped

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:18 pm

He also doesn't believe in update/upgrade fees and serum 2 is well in development.
rsp

GHOST19 · Post by **GHOST19** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:31 pm

Steve also doesn't believe in respecting European Court of Justice rulings about license transfers. Another thing to consider.

UtopianLament · Post by **UtopianLament** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:38 pm

GHOST19 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:31 pm Steve also doesn't believe in respecting European Court of Justice rulings about license transfers. Another thing to consider.

Why would he? He lives in the USA.

PieBerger · Post by **PieBerger** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:47 pm

GHOST19 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:31 pm Steve also doesn't believe in respecting European Court of Justice rulings about license transfers. Another thing to consider.

Parawave are based in the EU and don't allow license transfers and while it's not ideal, at least they are upfront about it. ECJ doesn't seem too bothered by infringement on their own turf.

Xfer changed their policy for all users, including those who purchased when transfers were still permitted. Changing terms was the d*ck move. Waves and Plugin Alliance for example, technically/legally allow license transfers but the terms/costs are such that it's basically impossible; I can't even give my V9 Gold license away because I need to pay for WUP and transfer costs on top and it's cheaper for new users to buy it on sale (which is every other day ending in y

) This to me is slimier and more problematic than Rapid (and Xfer for purchases post switch), who are at least honest about it. Just my 2p.

GHOST19 · Post by **GHOST19** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pm

UtopianLament wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:38 pm
GHOST19 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:31 pm Steve also doesn't believe in respecting European Court of Justice rulings about license transfers. Another thing to consider.
Why would he? He lives in the USA.

If you sell stuff in the EU you have to abide by EU business law. Same applies for most countries.

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:09 pm

UtopianLament wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:38 pm
GHOST19 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:31 pm Steve also doesn't believe in respecting European Court of Justice rulings about license transfers. Another thing to consider.
Why would he? He lives in the USA.

Developers take advantage users aren't filling complains against them with their local consumer protection agency, the day they do they will comply with EU law since I doubt most of them have the money to hire lawyers

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:10 pm

PieBerger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:47 pm
GHOST19 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:31 pm Steve also doesn't believe in respecting European Court of Justice rulings about license transfers. Another thing to consider.
Parawave are based in the EU and don't allow license transfers and while it's not ideal, at least they are upfront about it. ECJ doesn't seem too bothered by infringement on their own turf.

Xfer changed their policy for all users, including those who purchased when transfers were still permitted. Changing terms was the d*ck move. Waves and Plugin Alliance for example, technically/legally allow license transfers but the terms/costs are such that it's basically impossible; I can't even give my V9 Gold license away because I need to pay for WUP and transfer costs on top and it's cheaper for new users to buy it on sale (which is every other day ending in y ) This to me is slimier and more problematic than Rapid (and Xfer for purchases post switch), who are at least honest about it. Just my 2p.

Companies take advantage of users as long as they can avoid consequences.

Is Xfer Serum ever discounted?