Apparently that's not true, he's not charging VAT fees either and he's been doing it for almost 10 years now. .GHOST19 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pmIf you sell stuff in the EU you have to abide by EU business law. Same applies for most countries.
Is Xfer Serum ever discounted?
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- KVRist
- 127 posts since 9 Feb, 2022
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- addled muppet weed
- 105873 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
it is you know, thats why such rules exist. same with the vat...UtopianLament wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:05 pmApparently that's not true,GHOST19 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pmIf you sell stuff in the EU you have to abide by EU business law. Same applies for most countries.
however, the first is a civil law, so requires a complainant to bring a case, which would cost thousands up front
so not likely
the vat, he probably doesn't sell enough for them to give a shit, seeing as they cant be arsed chasing google or amazon.
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
you don't to go through with a full case in civil court, in many places you can start with a formal complain at the local consumer protection agency.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:13 pmit is you know, thats why such rules exist. same with the vat...UtopianLament wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:05 pmApparently that's not true,GHOST19 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pmIf you sell stuff in the EU you have to abide by EU business law. Same applies for most countries.
however, the first is a civil law, so requires a complainant to bring a case, which would cost thousands up front
so not likely
the vat, he probably doesn't sell enough for them to give a shit, seeing as they cant be arsed chasing google or amazon.
dedication to flying
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- addled muppet weed
- 105873 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
wouldn't know, never needed to, but thanks for the clarificationrod_zero wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:53 pmyou don't to go through with a full case in civil court, in many places you can start with a formal complain at the local consumer protection agency.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:13 pmit is you know, thats why such rules exist. same with the vat...UtopianLament wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:05 pmApparently that's not true,GHOST19 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pmIf you sell stuff in the EU you have to abide by EU business law. Same applies for most countries.
however, the first is a civil law, so requires a complainant to bring a case, which would cost thousands up front
so not likely
the vat, he probably doesn't sell enough for them to give a shit, seeing as they cant be arsed chasing google or amazon.
then im not sure why no one has bothered trying? but it's still a law, that could be enforced.
they wouldn't just make laws that people don't really have to bother with
not that im saying anyone should either, i have no opinion either way on it being ok or not, if it's upfront then it's a decision you make before purchase, it's on you imo.
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- KVRian
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There is a 20% student discount for Xfer products.
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doh! double-post
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
No, it's not. Sorry, but you don't know international law. US companies are not required to collect VAT for products they sell and distribute from the US, and that includes software and online services. Likewise, EU sellers to US consumers are not required to collect state sales tax, so this cuts both ways.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:13 pmit is you know, thats why such rules exist. same with the vat...UtopianLament wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:05 pmApparently that's not true,GHOST19 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pmIf you sell stuff in the EU you have to abide by EU business law. Same applies for most countries.
however, the first is a civil law, so requires a complainant to bring a case, which would cost thousands up front
so not likely
the vat, he probably doesn't sell enough for them to give a shit, seeing as they cant be arsed chasing google or amazon.
The only exception is if they have a physical business presence in the country/state to which they are selling.
The same applies to EU consumer protection laws.
Source: Me. I have to know these laws because my company does millions in online sales, and I set up the tax compliance engines. We don't market to the EU, but if they order, we do ship there and are happy to take their money.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105873 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
fair enough. thanks for the correctionteilo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:06 pmNo, it's not. Sorry, but you don't know international law. US companies are not required to collect VAT for products they sell and distribute from the US, and that includes software and online services. Likewise, EU sellers to US consumers are not required to collect state sales tax, so this cuts both ways.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:13 pmit is you know, thats why such rules exist. same with the vat...UtopianLament wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:05 pmApparently that's not true,GHOST19 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pmIf you sell stuff in the EU you have to abide by EU business law. Same applies for most countries.
however, the first is a civil law, so requires a complainant to bring a case, which would cost thousands up front
so not likely
the vat, he probably doesn't sell enough for them to give a shit, seeing as they cant be arsed chasing google or amazon.
The only exception is if they have a physical business presence in the country/state to which they are selling.
The same applies to EU consumer protection laws.
Source: Me. I have to know these laws because my company does millions in online sales, and I set up the tax compliance engines. We don't market to the EU, but if they order, we do ship there and are happy to take their money.
what about the licence transfer stuff though? do you know the rules for that?
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- KVRist
- 127 posts since 9 Feb, 2022
No, US companies don't have to follow EU transfer laws either. EU laws mean jack shit outside of the EU.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:32 pmfair enough. thanks for the correctionteilo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:06 pmNo, it's not. Sorry, but you don't know international law. US companies are not required to collect VAT for products they sell and distribute from the US, and that includes software and online services. Likewise, EU sellers to US consumers are not required to collect state sales tax, so this cuts both ways.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:13 pmit is you know, thats why such rules exist. same with the vat...UtopianLament wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:05 pmApparently that's not true,
however, the first is a civil law, so requires a complainant to bring a case, which would cost thousands up front
so not likely
the vat, he probably doesn't sell enough for them to give a shit, seeing as they cant be arsed chasing google or amazon.
The only exception is if they have a physical business presence in the country/state to which they are selling.
The same applies to EU consumer protection laws.
Source: Me. I have to know these laws because my company does millions in online sales, and I set up the tax compliance engines. We don't market to the EU, but if they order, we do ship there and are happy to take their money.
what about the licence transfer stuff though? do you know the rules for that?