Image Line Acquires UVI

[dionenoid]

As they said in the hitchhiker guide to the galaxy: Don't Panic.

We will still support all DAWs.
Commercialy wise, it would not make sense to stop getting sales from non FL studio user

Can you give us some more info on what we can expect from this move ?

[N__K]

If whoever is behind IL (of today) also controls Meldatoo.

Just a word of qualification (which I probably should have included.... ). The holding of share capital doesn't necessarily mean control of a company. Depends on the type of shares (voting, non-voting etc..) and also what particular powers are agreed that the shareholders can exercise (usually outlined in the articles of association of a company). It may be just merely a financial investment to secure a return therefore.

Well, I'll take the pessimist view (from users' perspective) on that one.
May make it easier to look like a prophet afterwards

[vurt]

threads last longer with doom posts

[pdxindy]

My casual observation is that in field of creative software (software for creators), a company being bought usually does not lead to a better result for users. I assume there are some exceptions.

[otristan]

As they said in the hitchhiker guide to the galaxy: Don't Panic.

We will still support all DAWs.
Commercialy wise, it would not make sense to stop getting sales from non FL studio user

That's good to hear - can you tell us anything at all about what sort of changes it might mean?

Not much. The buyout is actualy already 6 month old. UVI is still UVI with the same team.
The idea is just to keep on doing what we do while offering premium content to FL Studio users. They have the DAW and we have the instruments, so it’s pretty straightforward.
For us it gives an even stronger financial position to grow. And we work with people that have a good knowledge of the industry and the market
Win-Win

[Lbdunequest]

Image-Line is U-he of the daw market. Hands down best developer who also responds to regular folks. And have i mentioned free updates for life? I think this buy is a great thing.

[Surgo]

Image-Line is U-he of the daw market. Hands down best developer who also responds to regular folks. And have i mentioned free updates for life? I think this buy is a great thing.

This is a strange take. U-he tends to be on the forefront of new development with things like CLAP. Meanwhile my experience with FL Studio has been foot dragging. Just look at their response to MPE: not just not implementing it, but straight disbelief that anyone might find it useful. (Nevermind that if the piano roll properly recorded MIDI, the support for MPE would be free).

Happy to be proven wrong here by time but I've so far avoided becoming a FL Studio customer for that particular reason.

[Trancit]

Image-Line is U-he of the daw market. Hands down best developer who also responds to regular folks. And have i mentioned free updates for life? I think this buy is a great thing.

This is a strange take. U-he tends to be on the forefront of new development with things like CLAP. Meanwhile my experience with FL Studio has been foot dragging. Just look at their response to MPE: not just not implementing it, but straight disbelief that anyone might find it useful. (Nevermind that if the piano roll properly recorded MIDI, the support for MPE would be free).

Happy to be proven wrong here by time but I've so far avoided becoming a FL Studio customer for that particular reason.

It´s not that IL was not innovative... they have invented many things which got then copied over to other DAW´s
Compared to u-he... I don´t know what they really invented letting apart the fact that they develop very high quality products... but invention?? CLAP to my knowledge isn´t coming directly from them... they just support it heavily in different ways...

In regards to your claim about MPE:
It´s not that the folks over at IL aren´t aware of many people wanting something like this and they never said nobody wants it... they mostly argued that it makes no sense to concentrate just on MPE when Midi 2.0 is already dropping...but good will alone doesn´t serve you if the codebase isn´t ready for an implementation...

Gol decided once to not go the Midi route (what made sense back in the days as Midi was always a very weak and wonky thingy), so deep in the code of FLS there are many parts not working the way an implementation of something like MPE would require...

This doesn´t mean it will stay this way though... they have already rewritten many parts of the programm to make things happen but this is a very time consuming task with such a huge programm like FLS...
This will still take some time but I am pretty sure when they are ready with changing the basics huge changes will come to the programm very rapidly...

They have already spoken about a new mix engine including a new dynamic Mixer, integrating NewTone, NewTime and ARA2 into the playlist instead of being seperate plugins, Midi 2.0 which will of course include the features of MPE, decoupling the audio engine and other stuff from the current PPQ system, getting rid of variable buffer sizes, customizeable keyboard shortcuts and much more...

As I said... it will still take some time... but FLS will be a monster after this time ...V21 already showed off in which direction the changes will go, Otristan has already posted here that UVI will provide FLS with high quality content and I think it will in future surprise many enthusiasts of "professional DAWs" (as FLS is seen as a toy, right?)
Perhaps they change the roles then and all the others will try to catch up to FLS then as now FLS tries to catch up with the others... who knows... future will tell!

[N__K]

Image-Line is U-he of the daw market.

I'd say that Cockos are more of a "u-he of DAW devs", albeit only in certain areas.

IL (of today) seem to be drifting ever more towards being "the Nintendo of DAW market". Or Apple, in the sense that FL Studio is IL's iPhone.

Lately, even the IL forum has been - so to speak - increasingly conformed to current nature of the company. I'm not sure whether the person(s) tasked with that job are actually in agreement with it, or are they in the state of loving the big brother for the sake of continued paychecks.
Can't blame the fellow(s) much either way, but sometimes it just looks like what it looks like.

Hands down best developer who also responds to regular folks.

Indeed - the official responses nowadays seem to be aimed squarely at regular folks. Some irregulars have had issues with that

Although, to IL's credit, they haven't yet banned all of the court jesters.

And have i mentioned free updates for life? [...]

You and Scott and most of everyone on Looptalk - down to the kengurus chewing on wires in the outback. The frequency of mentioning LFUs seems to surpass rate of some LFO's these days

[osiris]

Someone previously could be right. I don't think it would be good to make UVI stuff into FL only . I really like the Flex VST, but you can't load samples in it, but it would be a great integration with UVI Workstation.

[EvilDragon]

That seems unlikely to me... My impression from looking at what evidence there is from the outside is that Ableton Live is the most used DAW.

No, Live is just more marketed. FL is the most widespread and most used DAW on the planet.

[serge]

...The idea is just to keep on doing what we do while offering premium content to FL Studio users...

I am really psyched about this, even more psyched than the bundle deal! It's like two companies with some of most brilliant minds, coming together. Can't even imagine what we'll see next. I'd absolutely love to see some of Falcon's crazy event processors and sequencers land in FL Studio!


Short term however, ... I'm also (selfishly) hoping that UVI support passed on my recommendation to add a timing off-set to the Falcon's Chorder/Chorder Extended, to help create advanced strumming!

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[dayjob]

Not much. The buyout is actualy already 6 month old. UVI is still UVI with the same team.
The idea is just to keep on doing what we do while offering premium content to FL Studio users. They have the DAW and we have the instruments, so it’s pretty straightforward.
For us it gives an even stronger financial position to grow. And we work with people that have a good knowledge of the industry and the market
Win-Win

thanks for chiming in. UVI has been great at taking care of its user base and bringing updates in a timely way that offer new features as well as compatibility. Nice to know the plan is to just keep moving forward with the same care and work ethic.

best of luck with the new situation and i look forward to whatever comes next from UVI and FL.

[pdxindy]

That seems unlikely to me... My impression from looking at what evidence there is from the outside is that Ableton Live is the most used DAW.

No, Live is just more marketed. FL is the most widespread and most used DAW on the planet.

I suppose it is possible... but I just never see evidence of it. It's a very small sample set, but I know about 50 musicians over the past 5 years and not one of them used FL. At least half used Live, some Studio One, some Garageband/Logic, etc.

And all the hardware companies who market to Live users and hardly mention FL Studio speaks much louder to me than a few claims online. If FL actually had such a large and active userbase, companies would market to it.

I'd believe FL has sold the most licenses cause it cannot be resold. I'd also guess that 90+% of the people who bought it don't currently use it.

[EvilDragon]

That's a pretty dumb guess (and a wrong one), sorry.

Live has more userbase in the USA. FL in Europe and the rest of the world.