KVR Audio

JHernandez · Post by **JHernandez** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:58 pm

dune_rave wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:00 pm slowly, it's time to make a new comparison video with minimonsta2 and uad minimoog

Don't forget Softube Model 72

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:07 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:38 pm I'll check it out when the servers cool down (really GForce? Get a better provider!) but I'm not super excited about yet another Minimoog emulation.

Well to be fair to Gforce, this isn't "yet another minimoog emulation" -- it's a V2 update to one of the Very First minimoog emulations, ever. Which you know, of course, since you said you got it way back then. So a V2 is hardly "yet one more..."

Them updating an old product to modern standards isn't nearly as yawn-inducing as all the companies that have released their iteration on the Minimoog in just the last couple years. Gforce have a fantastic new browser, and I'm very glad to see it added to Minimonsta, among other improvements. It just makes sense.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:43 am

gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:32 pmThere is NO difference at all , it’s clearly a bug .

Hmmmm I guess it snuck in the last moment, I defo remember them sounding different...

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:57 am

The filters sound different but it's subtle. You wouldn't hear it with the resonance cranked like that.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:46 am

zvenx wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:00 pm Does this happen if you drop the internal buffer to 16 or 8?

Yes, aliases at 8.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:58 am

Uncle E wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:57 am The filters sound different but it's subtle. You wouldn't hear it with the resonance cranked like that.

The whole point is to hear a difference when the resonance is cranked.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:08 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:58 am The whole point is to hear a difference when the resonance is cranked.

I hear it the most with Resonance at 5 or 6. Very pronounced then. At 7 or above, the resonance completely drowns out everything else. At 0, I can hear a difference but it's subtle.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:49 am

mholloway wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:07 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:38 pm I'll check it out when the servers cool down (really GForce? Get a better provider!) but I'm not super excited about yet another Minimoog emulation.
Well to be fair to Gforce, this isn't "yet another minimoog emulation" -- it's a V2 update to one of the Very First minimoog emulations, ever. Which you know, of course, since you said you got it way back then. So a V2 is hardly "yet one more..."

Them updating an old product to modern standards isn't nearly as yawn-inducing as all the companies that have released their iteration on the Minimoog in just the last couple years. Gforce have a fantastic new browser, and I'm very glad to see it added to Minimonsta, among other improvements. It just makes sense.

But it is yet another Minimoog emulation. It was top of its class… but that was in the mid 2000s. That was a long time ago. Ancient in software years. Now they’ve been long bested, and I’m supposed to feel great about it because they’ve finished the marathon a month late?

I was right there when they released Oddity 2, because there wasn’t a good emulation. Same with impOSCar 2. Jumped on OB-E too, and it’s fantastic, but Minimonsta 2 is a solution to a problem that I don’t have. They’d have spent better development time working on a good ARP 2600 emulation.

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:59 am

zerocrossing wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:49 am But it is yet another Minimoog emulation. It was top of its class… but that was in the mid 2000s. That was a long time ago. Ancient in software years. Now they’ve been long bested, and I’m supposed to feel great about it because they’ve finished the marathon a month late?

I was right there when they released Oddity 2, because there wasn’t a good emulation. Same with impOSCar 2. Jumped on OB-E too, and it’s fantastic, but Minimonsta 2 is a solution to a problem that I don’t have. They’d have spent better development time working on a good ARP 2600 emulation.

Die mad, I guess.

They have an amazing new browser so they're updating their existing synth line to include it, and enhancing them with new UIs, improved sound quality + more while they're at it. Easy move to understand afaic, but apparently you know what Gforce's development time should be spent on better than they themselves do

I bet we see a new Imposcar in the months ahead.

Daru925 · Post by **Daru925** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:05 am

Nostalgia + 1000 !
The venerable Minimonsta was one of my first softsynths.

Glad to see a version 2, i will give it a try for sure.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:32 am

mholloway wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:59 am They have an amazing new browser so they're updating their existing synth line to include it, and enhancing them with new UIs, improved sound quality + more while they're at it.

The amazing modulation panels. It's the simplicity and immediacy of a Minimoog with the capabilities of a modular.

fceramic · Post by **fceramic** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:38 am

Minimonsta is almost 20 years old! It’s a classic as well and has it’s own character.
I do think it’s a shame they removed the preset morphing. Sequencing the morphing was a lot of fun!

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:06 am

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:35 am

does someone know, test if presets from Minimonsta1 can be loaded?

plexuss wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:14 pm
Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:36 pm
plexuss wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:03 pm I've owned original minimoogs since 1982 and have one here with both the old and new oscillator boards. So far the most realistic sounding emulation I've heard is the Softube one which sounds to me like it uses the old oscillator board (good!). I can't get into GForce to try the new demo but once I do I will let you know my opinion.
What about The Legend and UAD Minimoog?
I dont have The Legend or the UAD.

I got Minimonsta2 running. Sounds good to me. Has the essential essence of a minimoog. I don't get so picky about it frankly, as some of you. Its nice to have all the bells and whistles that GF added too. The Softube mini still sounds more like a real mini. But the GF Mini2 sounds good too. Great even. Nice addition to the mini emus out there. My expectations are not for an exact sonic recreation because frankly I dont think it's possible. For my uses GF mini2 will be good and I'll upgrade my mini1.

In some cases I find with leads on mini2 that the sound also takes on a bit of an Arp Odessy character which is not a bad thing.

Caine123 wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:25 pm is it a seperate DLL or will it replace v1?
Separate on macPOS.

thx a lot! should be on windows the same i hope @anyone?

Echoes in the Attic · Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:31 am

mholloway wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:59 am
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:49 am But it is yet another Minimoog emulation. It was top of its class… but that was in the mid 2000s. That was a long time ago. Ancient in software years. Now they’ve been long bested, and I’m supposed to feel great about it because they’ve finished the marathon a month late?

I was right there when they released Oddity 2, because there wasn’t a good emulation. Same with impOSCar 2. Jumped on OB-E too, and it’s fantastic, but Minimonsta 2 is a solution to a problem that I don’t have. They’d have spent better development time working on a good ARP 2600 emulation.
Die mad, I guess.

They have an amazing new browser so they're updating their existing synth line to include it, and enhancing them with new UIs, improved sound quality + more while they're at it. Easy move to understand afaic, but apparently you know what Gforce's development time should be spent on better than they themselves do

I bet we see a new Imposcar in the months ahead.

What’s this “improved sound quality” you speak of? Seems to be the same sound engine as before?

GForce Minimonsta2