...except for layer amount.
I have noticed many F-em patches are used just in multi-layering mode rather than operators (that is without FM-ing each other).
What does Collective do F-em can't?
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- KVRAF
- 1601 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
Well, for one thing, Collective can utilize sampled waveforms in a subtractive synthesis architecture. I think most of its presets are, in fact, one or two-oscillator subtractive setups. So in that respect, Collective is more like a Korg M1 or Triton than a DX7.
But you raise a point that I believe most Collective uses aren't aware of: Collective is a fairly competent 4-operator FM synthesizer as well. On that front, of course, F-em would be able to surpass Collective's abilities multiple times over.
If anyone here has Collective and has been curious about getting into FM synthesis, Collective is a pretty easy way to start experimenting. It's limited in the algorithms available, of course, but gives you more than enough to get started.
But you raise a point that I believe most Collective uses aren't aware of: Collective is a fairly competent 4-operator FM synthesizer as well. On that front, of course, F-em would be able to surpass Collective's abilities multiple times over.
If anyone here has Collective and has been curious about getting into FM synthesis, Collective is a pretty easy way to start experimenting. It's limited in the algorithms available, of course, but gives you more than enough to get started.
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
More fun at Twitter @watchfulactual
More fun at Twitter @watchfulactual
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- KVRist
- 367 posts since 26 Feb, 2017 from Lituania,Vilnius
as an fm synthesizer, I don't like its sound, control, unstable, presets cannot be saved, very bad quality.
Orion, Bitwig, Tracktion, Mixbus 
Win 10, intel i7, ram 20 steinberg UR22mkII
Win 10, intel i7, ram 20 steinberg UR22mkII
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 42 posts since 23 Nov, 2021
F-em has got osc, filters, lfos, envelopes, layering (mixing operators to output).. That is everything we need for subtractive synth. So, my question.Watchful wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:32 am Well, for one thing, Collective can utilize sampled waveforms in a subtractive synthesis architecture. I think most of its presets are, in fact, one or two-oscillator subtractive setups. So in that respect, Collective is more like a Korg M1 or Triton than a DX7.
But you raise a point that I believe most Collective uses aren't aware of: Collective is a fairly competent 4-operator FM synthesizer as well. On that front, of course, F-em would be able to surpass Collective's abilities multiple times over.
If anyone here has Collective and has been curious about getting into FM synthesis, Collective is a pretty easy way to start experimenting. It's limited in the algorithms available, of course, but gives you more than enough to get started.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 42 posts since 23 Nov, 2021
As for the last F-em version running under Linux I don't notice those problems you have listed. As for sound, well, it's in our hands.imstre wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:55 am as an fm synthesizer, I don't like its sound, control, unstable, presets cannot be saved, very bad quality.