KVR Audio

olimpo · Post by **olimpo** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:44 pm

Hello, my Minifreak has two TRS 1/4" balanced output Left an Right. My interface is the Scarlett Solo and has only one 1/4" TRS Input (balanced for Line level and Unbalanced for Instruments). Currently I only have a TS-TS cable to connect Minifreak TRS Left/Mono Output to the TRS Scarlett Solo Input. I wonder if it would be better to use a TRS-TRS cable. Thanks.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:54 am

olimpo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:44 pm I wonder if it would be better to use a TRS-TRS cable. Thanks.

The difference is balanced vs unbalanced.

When is balanced better?
* Low voltages (millivolts)
* Long cables ( > 6m)
* Environments with lots of RF pollution

Your synth outputs a medium voltage (1V) so if you use a short cable and you're not in RF Hell (inside the computer case for instance) then likely you won't hear a difference at all.

Otoh if you currently hear humm, buzzing or whining, then switching to a balanced cable might be just the cure you need.

olimpo · Post by **olimpo** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:07 pm

ok ok many thanks, very useful

olimpo · Post by **olimpo** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:45 pm

Hello, in case you want to join the balanced TRS Left and Right Outputs of a synthesizer to an Insert TRS Plug to be connected to the only TRS input of Scarlett Solo, could this TRS Insert plug be designed?
Left Out Tip to Insert plug Tip - Right Out Tip to Insert plug Ring (overriding Left and Right Rings Outs ) and finally connecting Ground. It would be unbalanced but that way Insert plug Tip (Left Out Tip) would go to one monitor and Insert plug Ring (Right Out Tip) would go to the other monitor.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:11 am

What you describe as "insert" (I have some of these cables) is how eg headphones are wired for stereo.

But nope. If you do ths, you get the difference between left & right, also called "side channel".

A normal audio interface wants one cable for left and one cable for right. But the Scarlett Solo is only mono.

olimpo · Post by **olimpo** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:14 pm

BertKoor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:11 am But nope. If you do ths, you get the difference between left & right, also called "side channel".

that is because of the phase invertion?

olimpo · Post by **olimpo** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:17 pm

BertKoor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:11 am A normal audio interface wants one cable for left and one cable for right. But the Scarlett Solo is only mono.

Then the Scarlett Solo INPUT is MONO Balanced and never STEREO Unbalanced?

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:15 pm

olimpo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:14 pm
BertKoor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:11 am But nope. If you do ths, you get the difference between left & right, also called "side channel".
that is because of the phase invertion?

Hmm, nothing gets inverted, but how can I explain... Suppose that both channels play the same thing. So the voltage on both L&R conductors is the same. The input it is connected to measures the voltage difference between tip & ring. That will be zero if both channels carry the same audio.

olimpo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:17 pm
BertKoor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:11 am A normal audio interface wants one cable for left and one cable for right. But the Scarlett Solo is only mono.
Then the Scarlett Solo INPUT is MONO Balanced and never STEREO Unbalanced?

Do you have an owners manual?

olimpo · Post by **olimpo** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:34 am

hello, yes but it is not so specific, so I asked tech support. But I don't think it is stereo unbalanced.

Input 2 is the Input in this case.

I don't think I understand all of it.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:07 pm

If that input was somehow possible to use stereo, it would be clearly stated so, would you think not,?

olimpo · Post by **olimpo** » Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:47 pm

very clever indeed

Connecting TS plug into a Left/Mono Output.