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sixnon wrote:I think the 33 hz referred to is a binaural beat frequency. Binaural beats tend to entrain the brain which listens to them to their frequency "gap". 33hz is purported to relate numeralogically to Christ...

binaural beats to have a quite measurable effect when used as focussing or medatitive aides in the alpha, beta, delta and theta brainwave frequencies. I'm not sure about the numeralogical benefits of them...or their relationship to the Christ..

...and 98% seems...well...plucked out of the air??? What are the 2% which are not cured by this freq.?

...and binaural beats are usually made with pure sine tones

Six
I really need to work on my message board equitette, i should have thrown in a few emoticons in there to show that i was talking rubbish, i just assume i don't need to because i normally speak rubbish and people take it for granted.

however i was told by a guy that 33hz is the freq that stimulates the clitoris. i really wanna try it out on my gf (shhhh) :shock: :wink:
galaxy rayyys! powerful.

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Here is the VST Brainwave Generator

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/383.html


Barf

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splattabreakz wrote:
sixnon wrote:I think the 33 hz referred to is a binaural beat frequency. Binaural beats tend to entrain the brain which listens to them to their frequency "gap". 33hz is purported to relate numeralogically to Christ...

binaural beats to have a quite measurable effect when used as focussing or medatitive aides in the alpha, beta, delta and theta brainwave frequencies. I'm not sure about the numeralogical benefits of them...or their relationship to the Christ..

...and 98% seems...well...plucked out of the air??? What are the 2% which are not cured by this freq.?

...and binaural beats are usually made with pure sine tones

Six
I really need to work on my message board equitette, i should have thrown in a few emoticons in there to show that i was talking rubbish, i just assume i don't need to because i normally speak rubbish and people take it for granted.

however i was told by a guy that 33hz is the freq that stimulates the clitoris. i really wanna try it out on my gf (shhhh) :shock: :wink:
hehe... wish you luck
sk
begin with the end in mind
http://www.saikhuan.com/

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Barf wrote:Here is the VST Brainwave Generator

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/383.html


Barf
thanks a lot! i just found a website on how to generate 2 tones to create binaural beats.

http://members.aol.com/networktcp/research/brain.htm

that website pretty much explains everything.
sk
begin with the end in mind
http://www.saikhuan.com/

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splattabreakz wrote:
sixnon wrote:I think the 33 hz referred to is a binaural beat frequency. Binaural beats tend to entrain the brain which listens to them to their frequency "gap". 33hz is purported to relate numeralogically to Christ...

binaural beats to have a quite measurable effect when used as focussing or medatitive aides in the alpha, beta, delta and theta brainwave frequencies. I'm not sure about the numeralogical benefits of them...or their relationship to the Christ..

...and 98% seems...well...plucked out of the air??? What are the 2% which are not cured by this freq.?

...and binaural beats are usually made with pure sine tones

Six
I really need to work on my message board equitette, i should have thrown in a few emoticons in there to show that i was talking rubbish, i just assume i don't need to because i normally speak rubbish and people take it for granted.

however i was told by a guy that 33hz is the freq that stimulates the clitoris. i really wanna try it out on my gf (shhhh) :shock: :wink:
Yeh, I used to hate emoticons, refused to use 'em because I figured my language skills were sufficient to convey my meaning....but....people wouldn't talk to me here or on other boards.... :!: :?: :!:

so now... :? ...i just throw 'em in periodically and people respond to me much more :)

btw the 33hz/clitoris thing is a tongue oscillation measurement rather than a binaural beat frequency..... :-o

Six

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33 tongue movements.. a second?

frequency of christ?

wheres the common sense reactivation emergency button in this thread :help:

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no wonder they're known for faking all the time

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Have a look at:

http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/a ... tml#review

Neroli, Brian Eno... :)
Eventually something intelligent will appear written here. Watch this space.

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jax wrote:Have a look at:

http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/a ... tml#review

Neroli, Brian Eno... :)
Thanks :) what sort of music do you write? any demo i can listen to?
sk
begin with the end in mind
http://www.saikhuan.com/

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freeztar wrote:Healing is based on belief. Period.

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No it isn't. Period. :wink:

Ever heard of PRANA ? It's energy. Life energy.
This 'life energy' sourrounds us, is within us .
You can stimulate it and gain more of it . You can obviously deplete the amount of energy you have already, ie: Waste it.

Prana can be used (and is used by those skilled) to heal. It's simply about the transfer of energy. NOT FAITH or BELIEF. Therefore, healing is associated with the physical realm, very much so.

However, Spiritual healing is based on faith.
But this is different to healing with Energy ( Prana).The funny thing is both methods use energy.Confusing ? In Faith healing you basically stimulate energy by your devotion, emotion and unshakable knowledge that what you are doing reaches the source of healing ( for most people this source is God, for the cynical amongst us, call it The Great Unmovable Ever Changing Circulation Of Eternal Events ). Now, would you like to know about Trance Healing ? Exciting stuff.

And heah, all this healing business happens through your mind.

Back to music.
Do you guys think that music is really able to cure us from illness?

what do you think?
Saikhuan,
I think you ought to try this:

"Visualisation + Vocalisation = Manifestation"

Do you think the formula works ?

I repeat this from another post of mine. Try it and see for yourself if music (sound) can heal the physical.

Also, look out for Jonathan Goldman.

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To say that healing is based entirely on either belief or "energy" alone is ridiculous.

Different things for different needs. If I cut off your finger (purely for demonstrative purposes of course, nothing personal :D) then a towel is going to stop the bleeding much more effectively than belief or "energy."

Until they can be measured scientifically rather than just vaguely and innacurately described as "energy", I'd argue that prana, qi, reiki, sekhem, etc. are just other forms of faith healing. To my mind, these are sometimes useful additions or alternatives to purely physical efforts -- the body itself is often the greatest healer, and these things have a psychological effect which spurs it into action.

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foosnark wrote:To say that healing is based entirely on either belief or "energy" alone is ridiculous.

Different things for different needs. If I cut off your finger (purely for demonstrative purposes of course, nothing personal :D) then a towel is going to stop the bleeding much more effectively than belief or "energy."
I didn't say that healing is based on anything in particular, but merely gave a different point of view to the way Freeztar described 'healing' - as based on faith alone. Therefore my answer proceeded in the direction of the esoteric, becouse his was.

Obviously, the body will start it's own healing process after you cut off your own finger. No doubt. But the actual healing process won't be initiated by the towel. The body still needs energy. Everything does. This is not hokus-pokus I'm talking about but a fact of life. If your body is malnourished, it will not heal the open wound covered by your towel.
You need energy in your body for everything it performs. Get it from food, sun and esoteric practices. Yes. Don't wait for the scientific world to prove this or the other. Try for yourself. Or do, don't try, as Yoda would say. :roll:

Energy is the basis of life. So is vibration , oscillation. Which brings us back to healing with music. Vibration. You can shatter glass with sound and you can influence the molecules in the body with sound. To what extent ? Who knows. This is an exciting subject, trully set in the realm of experimentation. But there are people fully engaged in healing with music.

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I myself have suffered from mental illness for a great part of my life, and i must say that music has greatly helped me and many of my friends in our life. I do not believe that just because i am diagnosed with a mental illness means that music will help me out any more than anyone else in this planet. I respect your rather wordy decriptions here on this forum about the universe, music and therapy, but as a person who has recieved such benefits from music, i must also say that "theraputic music" isn't always as effective as normal, everyday music. When i listen to any kind of music that i like it helps me out greatly, and there is NO DIFFERENCE for me when i put on a cd designed for "theraputic purposes," except that i do not like the theraputic cd, and choose not to listen to it because i think it sucks. I am a music producer/musician and when i create music i dont intend it for any specifed purpose or reason, i just play and somehow i end up enjoying it, but i dont think of it in such complex ways as you have all descibed here. I believe i represent the average mentally ill patient who has recieved therapy from music and life and do not see much difference in theraputic music from regular everyday music other than providing a listener with more music to choose from, because to me it all sounds like ambient music. Perhaps there are subtle frequencies and nuances and binaural occurances that are taking place while one is listening to it but there is no need to acknowledge this or realize this to enjoy life music or to heal one's self.

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Very true, Xraydelta. I agree with you.

I have 'therapeutic' music CDs which, if I'm in the wrong mood, will agitate rather than soothe.
I tell ya, when i feel the blues I'd rather listen to a sexy house tune than some angelic etude (But it all depends - Kylie Minogue's lates single sounds like an angelic electro symphony-can't get enough of it. :D )

The current fashion for healing music has been largely fuelled by the 'New Age' music fraternity, which gave birth to composers producing healing music with Korg M1 and a few bells.LOL. References to angels don't help either. :wink:

Have you ever sat with a Tibetan Singing bowl ?
Have somone move it around your head while it's still sounding. Feel the sensations ! Awsome.

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its quite true different music will have different kind of effect on you at different time. the same soothing piece wouldn't have the same nice effect on you all the time. i think it's on how you percieve it. if you just broke up with your gf or something and listen to that therautic music, you probably want to break the cd to half. hehe.. but with all the science about binaural beat frequencies, you think it's true?
sk
begin with the end in mind
http://www.saikhuan.com/

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