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FeelingMachine
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Post Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:24 pm

You know what would be really useful, if AI could generate velocity/MPE mapped multisamples from a single sample, so that we can create more expression and humanisation from a single sample, rather than improvised methods like mapping velocity to volume, envelope, filter etc.

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Yadrichik_Chaya
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Post Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:39 pm

FeelingMachine wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:24 pm You know what would be really useful, if AI could generate velocity/MPE mapped multisamples from a single sample, so that we can create more expression and humanisation from a single sample, rather than improvised methods like mapping velocity to volume, envelope, filter etc.
:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

I have wanted the exact same thing! :D
A real-time round-robin resynthesis engine that you feed with, as you mentioned just one sample, but it generates variations of this sample (be it horns, violin, vibraphone, flutes etc.) every single hit on the keys. :love:

Or as you mentioned, makes a super expressive MPE patch (with all its variations) from a single sample! 8)
IGNORANCE (regarding what greedy, hateful & delusional people are up to) IS BLISS :love:

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Post Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:59 am

Is this thread for real? Is it a parody ? Or AI generated? It must be art

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Lind0n
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Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:52 am

Yadrichik_Chaya wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:39 pm
FeelingMachine wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:24 pm You know what would be really useful, if AI could generate velocity/MPE mapped multisamples from a single sample, so that we can create more expression and humanisation from a single sample, rather than improvised methods like mapping velocity to volume, envelope, filter etc.
:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

I have wanted the exact same thing! :D
A real-time round-robin resynthesis engine that you feed with, as you mentioned just one sample, but it generates variations of this sample (be it horns, violin, vibraphone, flutes etc.) every single hit on the keys. :love:

Or as you mentioned, makes a super expressive MPE patch (with all its variations) from a single sample! 8)
Its been available for a while - you dont need AI for it. If you think about a given sample - what are the "variations" : Pitch, Volume, Timbre and Timing.... so these are easy enough to modulate in most samplers - I wrote IRRE (Infinite Round Robin engine) over 10 years ago...It's been in all my sample based products ever since...
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Lind0n
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Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:52 am

Lind0n wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:52 am
Yadrichik_Chaya wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:39 pm
FeelingMachine wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:24 pm You know what would be really useful, if AI could generate velocity/MPE mapped multisamples from a single sample, so that we can create more expression and humanisation from a single sample, rather than improvised methods like mapping velocity to volume, envelope, filter etc.
:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

I have wanted the exact same thing! :D
A real-time round-robin resynthesis engine that you feed with, as you mentioned just one sample, but it generates variations of this sample (be it horns, violin, vibraphone, flutes etc.) every single hit on the keys. :love:

Or as you mentioned, makes a super expressive MPE patch (with all its variations) from a single sample! 8)
Its been available for a while - you dont need AI for it. If you think about a given sample - what are the "variations" : Pitch, Volume, Envelope, Timbre and Timing.... so these are easy enough to modulate in most samplers - I wrote IRRE (Infinite Round Robin engine) over 10 years ago...It's been in all my sample based products ever since...
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Yadrichik_Chaya
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Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:38 am

Lind0n wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:52 am
Yadrichik_Chaya wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:39 pm
FeelingMachine wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:24 pm You know what would be really useful, if AI could generate velocity/MPE mapped multisamples from a single sample, so that we can create more expression and humanisation from a single sample, rather than improvised methods like mapping velocity to volume, envelope, filter etc.
:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

I have wanted the exact same thing! :D
A real-time round-robin resynthesis engine that you feed with, as you mentioned just one sample, but it generates variations of this sample (be it horns, violin, vibraphone, flutes etc.) every single hit on the keys. :love:

Or as you mentioned, makes a super expressive MPE patch (with all its variations) from a single sample! 8)
Its been available for a while - you dont need AI for it. If you think about a given sample - what are the "variations" : Pitch, Volume, Timbre and Timing.... so these are easy enough to modulate in most samplers - I wrote IRRE (Infinite Round Robin engine) over 10 years ago...It's been in all my sample based products ever since...
Thank you for stopping by and thank you very much for letting me know about IRRE! :tu:
The only ChannelRobot product I have is KeyTone - but I have not yet installed it - will do that right NOW! And look at all the other libraries/plugins by you! 8)
I've bought stuff in 2020 that is still not installed - Keytone was at least bought in the summer of 2022! ;) *Installing*
IGNORANCE (regarding what greedy, hateful & delusional people are up to) IS BLISS :love:

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Lind0n
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Post Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:12 am

Yadrichik_Chaya wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:38 am
Lind0n wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:52 am
Yadrichik_Chaya wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:39 pm
FeelingMachine wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:24 pm You know what would be really useful, if AI could generate velocity/MPE mapped multisamples from a single sample, so that we can create more expression and humanisation from a single sample, rather than improvised methods like mapping velocity to volume, envelope, filter etc.
:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

I have wanted the exact same thing! :D
A real-time round-robin resynthesis engine that you feed with, as you mentioned just one sample, but it generates variations of this sample (be it horns, violin, vibraphone, flutes etc.) every single hit on the keys. :love:

Or as you mentioned, makes a super expressive MPE patch (with all its variations) from a single sample! 8)
Its been available for a while - you dont need AI for it. If you think about a given sample - what are the "variations" : Pitch, Volume, Timbre and Timing.... so these are easy enough to modulate in most samplers - I wrote IRRE (Infinite Round Robin engine) over 10 years ago...It's been in all my sample based products ever since...
Thank you for stopping by and thank you very much for letting me know about IRRE! :tu:
The only ChannelRobot product I have is KeyTone - but I have not yet installed it - will do that right NOW! And look at all the other libraries/plugins by you! 8)
I've bought stuff in 2020 that is still not installed - Keytone was at least bought in the summer of 2022! ;) *Installing*
Thanks - the IRRE amount is set using the RR Model in the Designer page...
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FeelingMachine
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Post Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:27 am

I disagree. Take an extensively sampled drum kit snare for example, and compare it to one snare sample modulated with typical sampler features, and the difference is obvious. A drummer hitting a snare and it's resulting changes is far more nuanced. I wonder if you can train AI to model the differences and then apply that model to any single sample.

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