You are correct, the music division had very low sales and had not been profitable for a while, multimedia sales were keeping the company afloat (barely) and Ensoniq's PCI patent (used in AudioPCI) forced Creative to spend big $$ for Ensoniq. If Ensoniq had simply cut the music division, it could probably have sold to Intel or Microsoft for even more $$ (since sound was headed to the chipset/motherboard anyway), but that would have been a hard thing to do for the remaining founders.FrettedSynth wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:04 pm Shame that Ensoniq was lost, IMHO it was their AudioPCI card that caused the buyout![]()
Why no DP/4 emulation?
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- KVRer
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- KVRAF
- 1837 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
Ahhhhh. The DP4 Was my main and nearly only modulation fx in a 24 track studio that was using three Tascam DA 88 tape machines synced together. I loved that unit.
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- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 19 Apr, 2004
Creative was the largest seller of sound cards in off the shelf computers. From what I heard that changed pretty quick after Ensoniq introduced the AudioPCI card. Had a few of them way back, could get a digital out by placing a mono plug into the stereo audio out jack. Pretty amazing for that time and the cost of the soundcard. My brother designed that output.Seikilos wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:29 pmYou are correct, the music division had very low sales and had not been profitable for a while, multimedia sales were keeping the company afloat (barely) and Ensoniq's PCI patent (used in AudioPCI) forced Creative to spend big $$ for Ensoniq. If Ensoniq had simply cut the music division, it could probably have sold to Intel or Microsoft for even more $$ (since sound was headed to the chipset/motherboard anyway), but that would have been a hard thing to do for the remaining founders.FrettedSynth wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:04 pm Shame that Ensoniq was lost, IMHO it was their AudioPCI card that caused the buyout![]()
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- 18342 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Here’s what I don’t get. There’s money on the table. Not a lot, but some. Also, marketing benefits. That’s maybe worth more. Hand over all the algorithms and schematics to someone like Arturia or Softube and put a stipulation in the contract for some cut of the profit and a spot for Creative on the logo. “ENSONIQ powered by Creative Labs.” For next to no effort, you make some money and get some exposure.
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- KVRAF
- 1763 posts since 1 Aug, 2006 from Italy
I agree, Creative Labs have some good IP and brands (they also own EMU).
Unfortunately they seem focused on consumer products nowadays... if they are not interested in making professional music tools, they could/should at least license some of that IP to a reputable pro-audio brand and milk some extra money (and exposure)...
Unfortunately they seem focused on consumer products nowadays... if they are not interested in making professional music tools, they could/should at least license some of that IP to a reputable pro-audio brand and milk some extra money (and exposure)...
- KVRist
- 60 posts since 3 Jan, 2012 from Colorado
The DP4 could possibly run on an emulator.
They've created an emulation for the ES5510 chip: https://www.mamedev.org/
and here's the git hub source for the emulation of the ES5510 chip used in the DP4: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/tree/ma ... cpu/es5510
Here's the site for Jon Dattorro, who wrote many of the algorithms. https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/DP4.htm
There are ROM files on the internet for the the DP4. This could be done similar to OSIRIUS.
They've created an emulation for the ES5510 chip: https://www.mamedev.org/
and here's the git hub source for the emulation of the ES5510 chip used in the DP4: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/tree/ma ... cpu/es5510
Here's the site for Jon Dattorro, who wrote many of the algorithms. https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/DP4.htm
There are ROM files on the internet for the the DP4. This could be done similar to OSIRIUS.
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- KVRian
- 616 posts since 31 May, 2004 from Germany
