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WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:41 pm

Isn’t the Intellijel a clone of the MI one? I don’t know, I assume if Behringer are selling them legally then they’re not pirating anything. The best thing about the module IMO is how the inputs are normalled e.g. four audios in and just the first given an envelope it normals to envelope all, four audios in and stick just one audio cable in the rightmost output and it normals as a mixed output.

There’s also a very interesting VCA named Valvs by Pusherman which has four real valves, one per channel, but it’s currently out of stock built.
https://pushermanproductions.com/produc ... ing-valvs/
but kits available if you can build stuff ok
https://pushermanproductions.com/produc ... ing-valvs/

https://youtu.be/XpYaYiyOpng

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:40 pm

WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:41 pm Isn’t the Intellijel a clone of the MI one? I don’t know, I assume if Behringer are selling them legally then they’re not pirating anything.

The comments were largely about the design similarity. This always confuses me because Roland has threatened people for less, but, the Behringer close definitely are copying the xox line in terms of look and feel.

I mean, that's a clone for sure. Is the intellijel a clone of something else? I dunno, the schematics aren't subject to copyright, so, other than look and feel, it's all fair game. The Behringer is about half the price of the intellijel.

https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021 ... ming-soon/

imrae · Post by **imrae** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:52 pm

Intellijel Quad VCA and Veils v1 have quite a few differences: the total available gain, switchable gain, offset / amount controls, cascading CV input, LED indicators on output vs CV.

They have a similar design remit of "compact quad VCA with continuously variable exp/lin character" and presumably both use a couple of 2164 chips. Apart from that a lot of the design choices were different.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:58 pm

ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:31 pm
WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:25 pm
elxsound wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:58 pm Anyone have an input on using MI’s Veils 2?

I’m looking at a Veils 2 clone for adding more VCAs or as a Mixer

Alternatively, there’s the Intellijel one and even Behringer’s Four Play which seems to be out of stock.
I’ve got two Four Plays and they’re great.
Andertons in UK have 8 in stock at £79 each.
https://www.andertons.co.uk/behringer-f ... r-eurorack
Maybe we'll get them soon. At $20 a VCA, with linear and expo, that's pretty hard to beat. Some folks were grumbling that it's a design clone of the intellijel module.

They’re about $95 with shipping from Andertons. Definitely not bad.

I’m still considering going with the Veils 2 clone only because it’d free up some hp down the line. It’s an extra $50 compared to Four Play.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:13 pm

Pittsburgh Modular TAIGA. My first (and probably last) purchese of 2023

tcc_taiga_2023.jpg

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:41 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:13 pm My first (and probably last) purchese of 2023

Oh, definitely get me in on that betting pool! What's the over-under?

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:44 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:13 pm My first (and probably last) purchase of 2023

Watcha talkin bout Willis?
Watcha talkin bout Everyone!

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:53 pm

@ cryophomic & WatchTheGuitar

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:57 pm

My first (and probably last) purchase for today.

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Found a great deal on a like-new Keystep 37 with a Decksaver today. This will make a perfect little dedicated controller for my SE-1X, since it doesn’t have an arp or sequencer.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:58 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:53 pm @ cryophomic & WatchTheGuitar

That Taiga looks cool! Congrats!

imrae · Post by **imrae** » Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:40 am

WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:41 pm There’s also a very interesting VCA named Valvs by Pusherman which has four real valves, one per channel, but it’s currently out of stock built.

Worth mentioning that if you don't want 4 channels then there are also the Ken Stone (DIY) and L-1 (kit or prebuilt) tube VCA modules which it was based on.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:51 am

thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:13 pm Pittsburgh Modular TAIGA. My first (and probably last) purchese of 2023

tcc_taiga_2023.jpg

ooh we're twins!!!

i have some of those blue nazcar noodles too

lovely piece of kit, big brother for the pest and beast

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:24 am

Just ordered my MI Veils clone along with Erica Synths Pico Input.

This will free up 4-8hp down the line and provide the needed VCAs.

This system is getting better.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:25 am

imrae wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:40 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:41 pm There’s also a very interesting VCA named Valvs by Pusherman which has four real valves, one per channel, but it’s currently out of stock built.
Worth mentioning that if you don't want 4 channels then there are also the Ken Stone (DIY) and L-1 (kit or prebuilt) tube VCA modules which it was based on.

Thanks for the reminder. I want some tube stuff in my kit and I have all of the parts for some pure tube DIY so that should be fun.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:26 am

elxsound wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:24 am

This system is getting better.

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