Plugin that adds „analog flavor“ even in default setting?
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- KVRist
- 49 posts since 24 Dec, 2016
Hi everyone.
I am looking for a plugin that emulates the behavior of analog circuits (but without overdoing it).
Meaning , as soon as i drag and drop it onto a track it will adds SUBBTLE color , be that light saturation and maybe minimal noise or whatever, like an analog circuit and-or a transformer would do as soon as you let audio through.
The idea is to replicate in a way an analog mixing-summing path
Where i would drop an instance of the plugin on each track without touching it , resulting in a more colored mix but as i mentioned , it would have to be extremely subbtle and also i dont want to have to drive it and match it to the incoming signal since this would beat the „drag and drop and forget- color is there“ purpose
There are channel strips that one can use but many emulations claim to be true to the original but
are completely clean and sterile. I can't test every plugin there is out there that's why I ask for opinions-experiences. I have encountered plugins like some Acustica plugins that will add "something" as soon as you drop them somewhere but I don't like using Acustica that much anymore.
Too much cpu and hard drive space for what they offer.
Do you have any suggestions? I guess it will be Channel strip emulations, Preamps etc but which?
I am looking for a plugin that emulates the behavior of analog circuits (but without overdoing it).
Meaning , as soon as i drag and drop it onto a track it will adds SUBBTLE color , be that light saturation and maybe minimal noise or whatever, like an analog circuit and-or a transformer would do as soon as you let audio through.
The idea is to replicate in a way an analog mixing-summing path
Where i would drop an instance of the plugin on each track without touching it , resulting in a more colored mix but as i mentioned , it would have to be extremely subbtle and also i dont want to have to drive it and match it to the incoming signal since this would beat the „drag and drop and forget- color is there“ purpose
There are channel strips that one can use but many emulations claim to be true to the original but
are completely clean and sterile. I can't test every plugin there is out there that's why I ask for opinions-experiences. I have encountered plugins like some Acustica plugins that will add "something" as soon as you drop them somewhere but I don't like using Acustica that much anymore.
Too much cpu and hard drive space for what they offer.
Do you have any suggestions? I guess it will be Channel strip emulations, Preamps etc but which?
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- KVRian
- 1424 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Italy
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 49 posts since 24 Dec, 2016
Hi there. I own some of your plugins. Love the Tube ModulatorAudiority wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:16 am You might want to try our Pre X7: https://www.audiority.com/shop/pre-x7/
So this preamp has already an effect just by dropping it on a channel ?
- KVRian
- 1424 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Italy
Yes, it's a tube preamp. Works great on a lot of different materials, but I always advise to demo it first to see if it fits your needs.
Cheers,
Luca
Cheers,
Luca
- KVRAF
- 11381 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
https://analogobsession.com/
.. take your pick. Tons of those plugins immediately impart a sonic fingerprint without touching anything. A good starting point would be the latest addition, GrapHack. Simply inserting it on a track gives a nice little flavor.. and as a bonus it includes a really useful EQ as well.
Or any of these preamps.
http://analogobsession.com/color-preamp-saturation/
.. take your pick. Tons of those plugins immediately impart a sonic fingerprint without touching anything. A good starting point would be the latest addition, GrapHack. Simply inserting it on a track gives a nice little flavor.. and as a bonus it includes a really useful EQ as well.
Or any of these preamps.
http://analogobsession.com/color-preamp-saturation/
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- KVRist
- 112 posts since 14 Feb, 2023
Alot of what is "analog", is that each channel go thru it own circuitry.
There will be different resistances (ohm) and capacitance values (farrad) for each channel.
This create slight difference in both phase correlation and saturation/gain.
In box what you can do is put each channel into own bus. Then mix each buss slightly different. Then sum back into stereo.
I don't see any plugin yet that emulate this behavior of analog summing. Treating each channel as it own.
For example.
You run a channel thru two different pultec eq analog units or say two different 1176 units. Left go thru one right go thru one. Then it summed back to stereo after. This create variants for each channel (like mentioned resistance, capacitance, transformation) thus giving you a more "special" stereo separation and depth.
There will be different resistances (ohm) and capacitance values (farrad) for each channel.
This create slight difference in both phase correlation and saturation/gain.
In box what you can do is put each channel into own bus. Then mix each buss slightly different. Then sum back into stereo.
I don't see any plugin yet that emulate this behavior of analog summing. Treating each channel as it own.
For example.
You run a channel thru two different pultec eq analog units or say two different 1176 units. Left go thru one right go thru one. Then it summed back to stereo after. This create variants for each channel (like mentioned resistance, capacitance, transformation) thus giving you a more "special" stereo separation and depth.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 49 posts since 24 Dec, 2016
Tbh i don't want and don't expect to 100% replicate analog processing and summing. That's not possible yet. However in the last years some plugins have been created that are on a different level than 5-6 years ago.Masterofdisaster wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:46 pm Alot of what is "analog", is that each channel go thru it own circuitry.
There will be different resistances (ohm) and capacitance values (farrad) for each channel.
This create slight difference in both phase correlation and saturation/gain.
In box what you can do is put each channel into own bus. Then mix each buss slightly different. Then sum back into stereo.
I don't see any plugin yet that emulate this behavior of analog summing. Treating each channel as it own.
For example.
You run a channel thru two different pultec eq analog units or say two different 1176 units. Left go thru one right go thru one. Then it summed back to stereo after. This create variants for each channel (like mentioned resistance, capacitance, transformation) thus giving you a more "special" stereo separation and depth.
One of the synths for example that emulates an analog synth (I forget which developer at the moment but I think it was Synapse maybe) has a "Drift" function that lets the synth be less "digital perfect" and it works wonders. Things like that. Or Taip by Baby audio does real wonders also.
What I look for is something extremely subtle that adds a tiny bit of color and non linearities on each channel but not enough to create a a problem when channels get summed up. Right now I can get there but it is always a hustle and never "set and forget". Too many tweaks necessary
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- KVRist
- 274 posts since 31 May, 2017
I find Fuse Audio Labs plugins good for this. Fuse VPRE-2C at default settings is great at subtle tone, without overdoing it. Flywheel as well, if you prefer tape sonics.
- KVRAF
- 4469 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
I wonder how much of that is audible in a blind test.Masterofdisaster wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:46 pm Alot of what is "analog", is that each channel go thru it own circuitry.
There will be different resistances (ohm) and capacitance values (farrad) for each channel.
This create slight difference in both phase correlation and saturation/gain.
In box what you can do is put each channel into own bus. Then mix each buss slightly different. Then sum back into stereo.
I don't see any plugin yet that emulate this behavior of analog summing. Treating each channel as it own.
For example.
You run a channel thru two different pultec eq analog units or say two different 1176 units. Left go thru one right go thru one. Then it summed back to stereo after. This create variants for each channel (like mentioned resistance, capacitance, transformation) thus giving you a more "special" stereo separation and depth.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
This is imo the best:
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viewtopic.php?t=563210
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 49 posts since 24 Dec, 2016
Its a bit late for April 1 jokes tbh
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
No, too early.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 5272 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
Isn't there a live spice VST out there now? You could make a simple summing buss in Spice with little effort.
Edit: typo
Edit: typo
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